- cross-posted to:
- gaming@beehaw.org
- skg@lemmy.dbzer0.com
- cross-posted to:
- gaming@beehaw.org
- skg@lemmy.dbzer0.com
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
Stop Killing Games is an European Citizens Initiative aiming to keep games playable even after their developers and publishers have stopped supporting it.
To get the initiative onto the EUs agenda so it has the chance to become EU law, it has to both reach 1 million signatures total and minimum thresholds in at least 7 countries. Now both of those goals have been reached. But that’s no reason to stop signing! Some signatures will get thrown out in the validation phase because the signee made a mistake. So keep signing and show the world just how many people are in favour of saving videogames.
This is an important milestone. However, in several countries including large ones like Germany, it is possible to sign the petition without an eID. There definitely needs to be a security buffer.
However, the relatively simple method of signing in Germany and countries that similarly don’t require you to jump through many hoops makes it easier, in my view, to encourage other, older people to sign. Feel free to openly discuss the topic with your family. In my family chat, a simple share with a short explanation of why the issue is important to me resulted in two more signatures.
Saying it here too: 100.01% is cutting it close but glad to see we got this far. Please keep signing!
Yeah, please everyone - keep signing! That’s the total amount of support but there may be some corrections to weed out bots or fake signers in the end, so the real count is probably a bit lower.
Still 200.000 needed or more, to avoid bad signatures
Joys of being dual UK-EU national, I’ve been able to sign both petitions
happy cake day
I would definetely sign it, if i was an eu citizen.
Awesome! keep going!
Still need to keep pushing, after the deadline votes will be verified (why this does not happen at the time of signing is beyond me but whatever) and not every vote will be valid, so having a certain buffer is always good
why this does not happen at the time of signing is beyond me but whatever
Data protection. The EU doesn’t do the validation, they don’t even have the data necessary for it. That job falls to the national governments. But why share the data if the initiative wasn’t successful in the first place.
you could most likely do a check at time of signing with eID without having the data headache. What might be the cause of the verification after the deadline are probably the various non-eID signing options. Still somewhat annyoing but I guess at least until eID actually reaches widespread usage everywhere we’ll have to keep it this way
(unfortunately) speaking as an American, why is it so hard to get legislation to pass in the EU?
Most legislation is not done through petitions like these.
The EU is composed of tens of countries with very different cultures. And plenty of parties.
In the US there are only 2 parties. And they mostly vote in favour of whatever their party wants.
Having multiple parties means that it is very rare for a single party to have 50% of the vote. Which means they have to make agreements constantly. Which is very time consuming.
Let’s say you have parties ABCDEF. Parties A and B are big, the other small.
Party A wants to make a law. It either needs help of B, or 2 of the small parties. Parties BC are immediately opposed. So it has to convince D, E or F. D will only support it if they can pass another bill. That other bill is a deal breaker for E and F.
Now A’s only option are E and F. So if they want to have that bill passed, they’ll have to give E and F whatever they want. Which probably A doesn’t want. So even though A is a big party, it is impossible for them to pass that bill.
If they had to look at every petition they’d only be looking at them all day. It makes sense to only handle stuff that will impact a lot of people.
Is there anything similar in the USA?
I guess that makes sense but that seems so difficult to reach for a movement, can the meetings of EU leaders propose laws themselves or do they also have to get votes?
In the US for something like StopKillingGames we have a local senior that we can call and yap to and (in theory) they’d listen to what their citizens have to say and start the process of making it a bill, when then would become a law after a couple rounds of approval and editing before being approved or vetoed by the president.
There’s actually a children’s music video they played to all of us in school when we were young, it’s unironically a super good way to teach people about how it works, https://youtu.be/SZ8psP4S6BQIf you hear people in US politics say “call your senator” that’s who they’re calling, they have some power over bills that can be voted out I think.
also, I’ll just add an asterisk to the whole paragraph as
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I’m not a lawyer, I just have a basic highschool education so far, I might be wrong
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the whole idea of a “justice system” and “laws” are kinda currently being thrown out the window?? i don’t really know what’s happening anymore.
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also presidents can propose bills or something and skip the senior section I think?
anyways, it’s pretty interesting learning about how laws work over there. Seems so much more simple than ours :/
Yes European lawmakers can vote and pass laws without going through this citizens initiative system, if that’s what you’re asking. Every country has elected officials so we can also talk to them and threaten to not vote for them. It’s more like this system I think
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civil law vs common law.
There is not even a percent of people demanding it. In the US most people are deeply in favour of some policies and they still don’t get passed.
It’s complicated.
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