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That sounds like something you say immediately before a CIA operative waterboards you for eight hours.
“What are you going to do, waterboard me?” - waterboarding victim
There is a full couple of years in media history, roughly corresponding to the decade after 9/11 where so many shows and films show the successes of torture… I was disgusted then, I’m disgusted now.
yep, 24 comes to mind.
There’s an apocryphal story that cia requested they tone it down on the torture, because they were getting too many applications from obvious sickos.
As you correctly noted, obtaining information is not the main goal.