Well this was a fun interaction. Calling people out for saying something racist, makes me the real racist, and a strawman-ing dictator lover, apparently.

Saying “this white man’s house remodelling looks like a brown man did it!” Isn’t the sick own you think it is…

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    What’s the strawman? The first comment literally says “looks like it was designed by a dictator from the middle east”, what part of the second comment is a strawman?!

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      words are meaningless now, they are just tools to construct quips and catchphrases.

      istg libs should read the very dictionary they repeatedly invoke as the bible of language rather than a descriptive phonebook of words…

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        Funny story, I was having an argument with a liberal friend of mine during the brief Iran-Israel conflict about the EU/ NATO fully supporting Israel doing whatever it wants and it somehow devolved into him accusing me of being a Russia propagandist and calling Russia a settler-colonial state (after I described Israel as one lmao) simply because I pointed out NATO is an imperialist arm of America.

        Liberals legitimately don’t care about the meaning of words, they just throw your terms back against you if you aren’t a part of their tribe.

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          the fucking return to sender ass argumentation or the more fr*nch term for it “tu quoque” is so fucking annoying (ESPECIALLY WHEN THE ARGUMENT FLIPPED AROUND IS FLAT OUT FACTUALLY WRONG), it literally only serves to derail the discussion because the offending person doing this is just grasping at straws and doesn’t have any point to make.

          Worst yet is when they don’t substantiate the “tu quoque”…

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      Probably that the commenter was talking about all Middle Easterners/Asians when they were really just talking about their dictators like Saddam Hussein, Bashar al-Assad (not a dictator, but you just know the commenter thinks he’s one), or Muammar Gaddafi (again, not a dictator or even Middle Eastern, but try telling libs that). I’d be surprised if the commenter even knows that the Middle East is really West Asia.

      Basically, “I hate the government, not the people”. I’d be surprised if it even occurred to any of them that it could be racist.

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    Comments like this are such a great rorschach test for how libs perceive people of the global south.

    Libs upon seeing anything they don’t like:

    “wowza, this is exactly like <caricature of country I'm allowed to be racist about>!”

    Lemmitors really love their racist tropes, especially ones like this where some liberal value (that they never consistently uphold) serves as the trojan horse for whatever racist shit they believe about other countries.

    Btw, if you oppose this racist characterization, you are actually pro-dictator tankie1, you see 🤓☝️🏻

    [1]: anyone who doesn’t laugh at racist depictions of people from countries with GDP <$10,000

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    simping

    really cool how the mature adults in the room talk like 4chan incels now. Yeah man, Vladmir Pootler is a Stacy and she’s giving Europe a shit test. Russia is decor-mogging us, It’s so over.

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    I’m assuming they are referring to the ‘dictatorships’ the U.S. overthrew (because it appears they are referring to Assad and Saddam, not US aligned gulf states).

    Yet these so called dictatorships had better relative living standards for vast majority of people than the U.S does currently.

    The US aligned dictatorships have more of this “dictator living in gaudy mansions while people starve” than anti-West ‘dictatorships’. American support for such pro-West dictatorships is very much bipartisan.

  • I know far more whitey American losers who love that maximalist gilded golden everything everywhere bullshit than I do middle eastern dictators in total.

    I used to work for a guy who was all black leather and gold leafed everything. and, if you’re not absolutely certain already based on that sentence alone, he was a massive swollen, and unrepentant asshole.

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      I’ve literally never seen the first one in the context of anything positive happening, so for you to wheel it out as an example is pretty funny.

      It’s usually the backdrop of some horrific press conference about our country getting bent over by one of our friendly neighbors and/or the US.

      I appreciate the restraint in the design, when it’s put up against these others, I guess.

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        I specifically picked each image from the 3 distinct places in the Arab world (alsham, alkhaleej and na). Lebanon is mired in sectarian problems fermented by the West keeping a leash on + combined with lib parliamentarianism, but despite all of this, they’ve got a humble minimalist taste in parliament/palace interior design :)

        (ofc there are different examples in the country that aren’t necessarily minimalist, I just picked the first thing that came up on the search engine)

        My guess is it’s sort of a reflection on the various sects that exist in the country, so no one sect overshadows the other, is what they were probably going for… Or maybe I’m just pulling that out of my ass.

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      I mean definitionally it is but even for Trump’s making it tackier the White is House is quite small and unimpressive for a state residence. Trump is a low energy loser for not trying to build himself a palace tbh

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    “politics” is just team sports for these “people”, so if you have more than 2 braincells and rightly call them out for being racist then this is interpreted as an attack in support of the other team because you were critical of them and that must mean you are a trump supporter since liberals are never ever wrong (brown people are not fully human you see…)

    so much for “muh ebil gommunist mob mentality can’t criticise ruling party etc.” its all just projection

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    Also I think part of it is just that Trump has better lighting.

    I’m like 95% sure those are the same chairs, but Trump uses bright warm lights so they appear gold vs Biden’s hospital lighting making them look off-white.

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    Liberals aren’t against Racism, they just have different lists of superior and inferior races than the Fascists.