• Rakonat@lemmy.world
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    7 天前

    As an American, the other 4 out of 10 must be idiots. GOP is on a mission to destroy everything that makes America a superpower.

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    7 天前

    From Mary Poppins:

    Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.

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    6 天前

    This Canadian has been avoiding all US products I can and has zero plans to ever cross into the US border.

    Americans are fucking stupid can’t be trusted.

    Canada should fortify it’s southern border and get nukes.

    I would even be into an American style vetting on Americans wanting into Canada. Lets check their phones. Sorry, MAGAt. You support Nazi’s and Trump. Fuck off!

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      You sound like Kim Jung Un, or that orange guy, when talking about nukes, and securing the southern border.

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        6 天前

        Canada has a serious problem with a long term ally attacking our trade and saying we’re going to become their 51st state. Trump mocks and attacks our leaders and makes threats against us.

        You can try to belittle my comments, but we have a valid reason to feel threatened.

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          I am Canadian, so what is this we?

          If he invades Canada, that will start WW3, he won’t do it. He is too busy destabilising his own country, and deporting people. Also, we have no nukes, compared to the u.s. having over +5,000.

          I think we should up security checks for guns and drugs coming into Canada, but not search phones unless we have probable cause. We don’t have to stoop down to Donald Trump’s level.

          Make them feel welcomed coming into our country, and hated going back into their own country. We don’t need a wall, or nukes. You silly Goober.

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    I get it, but like, this isn’t something the American people did. This has been orchestrated over decades by the wealthiest evilest mfers on earth. Definitely dont trust our government and dont trust the red-hatted folks, but do realize that if this plays out how they want, all of the regular peiple of the world are going to need to set aside that distrust. It has spread to England and Germany. Canada wont be immune.

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      You’re telling me that people like Steve Bannon don’t go to Europe to spread their hateful shitty rhetoric all around the world? Or that 77 million that voted for Trump have nothing to do with his election?

      I know it’s not “all of them”, but it’s a good chunk. It lowers the trust level in general, want it or not.

    • Grant_M@lemmy.ca
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      The American people control who is elected at the voting booth. THEY did this.

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      Absolutely. Americans, Israeli, Russians are all regular people caught in the crossfire. There are some shitheads in support of their governments, and there are plenty more of those who reject it and will happily join the opposing forces, uniting internationally over the same goal.

      And outside of political lens, people are still the same as they were a year or two or three ago. It’s just that different political circumstances highlight particular kinds of people.

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    7 天前

    Canada needs a nuke now more than ever. Build it. And any time the orange fuckhead threatens annexation load it up in the silo.

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      American here and I agree.

      Even within the borders of this asylum, the “6 in 10 don’t trust the US and/or the average American” feels like it would be in the ballpark for the locals. For the people living next to this shit, yeah more like your numbers.

  • m4xie@lemmy.ca
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    Many of my friends are American trans people desperate to be able to stay here, terrified of going back.

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      I never understood this stereotype (aboot vs about). I’m Canadian, lived here all my life, my family is all Canadian and all have lived here all their lives. I’ve got family all across the country, from the western coast of BC to the eastern coast of Newfoundland, from the northern stretches of Nunavut to the most southern tip of Ontario, and very rarely have I ever heard it pronounced that way. It’s actually really funny as a Canadian to look up “how to speak like a Canadian” and watch how awful most of the “tips” are. I’d recommend it.

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        One time I was having a conversation with a woman that I had never met before. About 5 minutes into the conversation, she used a word with the “ou” vowel sound and I asked her if she was Canadian. She was caught off guard and didn’t understand how I correctly assumed she was Canadian.

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        I think “oot” emphasises the difference from US accents for parody reasons, and also it’s just not that simple to describe that difference by substituting a single letter of the alphabet. The best way I can think of to describe it (based on experience with friends from BC) is like a combination of “oht” and “oat”

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          I’m in the US and I have to support this analysis. I dated someone from Canada when I was younger, and at first he expressed the same thought as the poster above - he didn’t hear the difference, so he didn’t get it.

          Until he came to visit me in the states. The difference between how his dad and my dad talked was so apparent, the stereotype just “clicked.” To say “aboot” is definitely an exaggeration, but in all fairness, it’s really hard to repeat a sound that isn’t in your native dialect. There is no US-English equivalent for the “ou” sound in Canadian English “about.”

          It’s like when a Japanese speaker uses a Z sound instead of English TH - it’s not because Z is exactly what they hear when an English person says TH, but because the TH sound doesn’t exist in Japanese at all. In both cases (and so many more across the world), speakers substitute non-standard sounds with ones they already know.

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        A lot of people in the us will misinterpret a rural Ontario accent as Californian because way back in the day a bunch of people from Ontario moved to California and apparently the accent kind of caught on.

        There’s a town called Ontario in California even.

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        Same, never heard ‘aboot’ in my life. However, I do tend to say ‘-eh’ all the time, especially at the end of sentences as emphasis.

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          I definitely use “eh” a lot, that stereotype is pretty accurate, though I feel like a lot of Americans don’t quite understand the usage of the word.

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        It’s exaggerated. I’m from Newfoundland and have little to no regional accent, but still have very slight grammatical and phonetic tells that are apparently obvious to people from elsewhere.

        I use more long “O” sounds than people in the US which is apparently obvious almost immediately, and I have some odd grammar whitch apparently singles me out as from NL very quickly to anyone in Canada.

        Also, apparently the way I say “thirteen” has a stronger hint of Newfoundland in it than the rest of my speech, at least according to one of my co-workers from Ontario.

        It’s quite possible that having such a wide ranging family same social circle has simple acclimated you to the various regional differences in dialect.

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          It’s exaggerated.

          I watch a lot of Canadian Youtube, it’s totally a mix.

          80% of the time it’s identical to US about

          19% of the time it’s aboawt.

          1% of the time it’s totally a-boot.

          With a US English ear, it’s jarring. (not in a bad way) but we totally notice it.

          Not eveyone does it. Linus from Linus tech tips drops one every few shows, but then Electro Boom never does. Bobsdecline does it a little less often.

          It’s kind of like the US and Brittish people saying Idear instead of idea. it happens once in a while

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            I think Linus does it as a meme, more than as part of his natural speech.

            And Bobsdecline is from the opposite coast.

            The aboot thing is mostly a southern Ontario thing, but since that is where a lot of traditional media comes from, it is the most commonly exported Canadian regional accent.

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              Linus might be meaming it, but I have heard others say it. The aboat version of it is even common across the northern border in central US.

              I also just ran across a video of two Canadian English teachers talking about it, but they too were almost in the aboat class.

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        its more like “a-boat”. I’ve never even been to Canada, but I can often spot a Canadian on TV within moments based on how they speak.

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        Afaik, the aboot thing is a regional dialect thing in parts of Ontario.

        And, as we know, Toronto represents all Canadians… (or at least thinks they do)

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        It’s because everyone’s accents have gotten less distinct/strong due to TV. I know people from the US south with barely an accent because of this.

        Also, some of the accent stereotype comes from your own movie productions, especially older ones when the accents were more like that:

        https://youtu.be/EojzfxXGxtE

        Granted they are playing this up for their characters

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          I absolutely love Bob and Doug McKenzie but they’re definitely not representative of the average Canadian. Like you said, they’re playing it up for their characters. They play an exaggerated stereotype of a dim-witted drunken Canadian. They’re kind of like Canadian Homer Simpsons in a way. A great comedy duo, truly one of the best, but most Canadians don’t sound like that.

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      The one silver lining to this whole fascist takeover of the US is that I’m not an odd one out in my hatred of the USA anymore. The exceptionalism and arrogance of Americans always weirded me out and I guess this is where that all that shit lead

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        What’s scary is even the anti-Trump ones are like that. There’s a lot of them trying to come to Canada and they’ll say things like “my great great great grandfather was Canadian, Canada is my TRUE HOME also what’s with all these Chinese immigrants in Vancouver??” like ma’am that Chinese man has probably been here for 3 generations he is more Canadian than you. Don’t get me started on how they’ll pick out certain stereotypes to try to sound more Canadian, like “oh I LOVE poutine and hockey, it must be in my blood because I’m TRES CANADIAN”. Like they genuinely do not get it.

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        The one silver lining to this whole fascist takeover of the US is that I’m not an odd one out in my hatred of the USA anymore.

        I’ve been saying for a long time that US fascists are only bringing forth America’s true face. It has always been arrogant, genocidal, and imperialist. Ask Latin America and the Middle East if they have positive view of the US. Even my country after being liberated from Spanish rule, the US took over us despite opposition and used the same suppression tactic as they had applied to Native Americans. This is in spite of US proclaiming to be the land of the free. “You are not free unless we say so”. “Follow the international law and rules based order, except for us”. Biden himself affirmed US will invade The Hague if the International Criminal Court arrests any American citizen. He pardoned his son from criminal conviction. But when Trump does it all, that is corruption and illegal? So much for shining beacon on the hill, land of the free and proponent of international law.

        The US establishment since inception are closeted fascists from the get-go and doesn’t even know it. Now, Trump is bringing to light the truth. And why not? The voters demanded authenticity and this is what they get as asked. In “The Shining”, a major theme is America’s colonial past and one of the quote is “you’ve always been the caretaker”. The US has always been a fascist but never knew its real face. Where did the word fascism comes from? From Latin “fasces”. Where did the words “empire” and “colony” come from? From Latin as well. Where did the US republic model itself? From the Romans, who committed genocide, engaged in slavery, practised imperialism and was hedonistic and heavily unequal as society. From anti- and post-colonial perspective, countries that either modeled itself from the Roman empire or sees itself as the next Rome always collapse-- from the British, Germans, Russians, Spanish, France and now the US.

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    Personally, my trust in any specific individual is entirely based on that individual, regardless of their nationality or any other factor… Because I’m not bigoted like that.

    However, my trust in the American government and my willingness to use American brands has been permanently altered.

    Given how much surveillance most major tech companies do on their users, I’m just about ready to break out the tin foil. Shit is getting wild.

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      This. I live in a bubble in California. We still have decent folks here. When I travel the country I tend to encounter the chuds at airport bars. The key chud indicator is to respond that you’re from San Francisco when they ask. They won’t be able to contain the fox news eulogy for San Francisco and how it used to be a great state before it got "ruined "