• IndridCold@lemmy.caEnglish
    1112·
    8 days ago

    Fuck them. Lemmy is Canadian.

    MAGA, the people who want to make Canada their 51st state, can fuck right off.

    However, I do find it funny these “American patriots” feel they need to use Canadian servers to exercise their free speech. Their Orange god is completely against free speech. They should embrace that instead.

    Edit: Sorry. I misunderstood how this maga place this was hosted when I made the comment. I thought it was on lemmy.ca but I see now how it’s hosted and shared.

    • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.orgEnglish
      19·
      9 days ago

      However, I do find it funny these “American patriots” feel they need to use Canadian servers to exercise their free speech.

      Canadian servers? what do you mean? fedidb does not show server location to me

      • pivot_root@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        9 days ago

        You’re correct.

        The A record for the domain name maga.place resolves to 216.144.226.200, which is under the 216.144.226.0/24 prefix of AS36352 (HostPapa). The prefix being used is registered to madgenius.com, which is a hosting provider registered in the United States. Curiously, that provider even has their own ASN (AS55154) that’s not being used here.

        It’s also a shared IP address. The address itself resolves to suportefiscal.aptosclinica.com.br. when you perform a reverse lookup.

        As for the domain name itself, a quick whois lookup points to Namecheap. The MX records corroborate this, pointing to registrar-servers.com.

        In any case, the server itself is hosted in Virginia. The hosting provider used is an American company either owned by or reselling services from a Canadian company.

      • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
        14·
        9 days ago

        This is a 1-day-old account and they also said “Lemmy is Canadian”, so I’m presuming that they think that defederation means to remove this like it were a community.

        Although even so they aren’t wrong: federation with Lemmy.ca means to help spread their messages using Canadian servers:-).

    • cyborganism@piefed.caEnglish
      4·
      8 days ago

      However, I do find it funny these “American patriots” feel they need to use Canadian servers to exercise their free speech.

      No, actually they have their own server which is maga.place.

      In the Fediverse, independent servers automatically synchronize with each other to publish their content. However, it is possible to cut the link with another server to avoid its publications from showing up on our own server.

      • IndridCold@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        8 days ago

        No, actually they have their own server which is maga.place

        I see that now. I misunderstood how they were hosted.

  • ZeroCool@lemmy.caEnglish
    811·
    9 days ago

    Yes, this shouldn’t even be a discussion. There’s no room at the table for fascists.

  • don@lemmy.caEnglish
    551·
    9 days ago

    Yes please, no point in taking any chances.

  • i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.caEnglish
    541·
    9 days ago

    I vote yes.

    We don’t need to federate with a safe space for spreaders of hate and conspiracy theories.

    At worst, that instance will become another Grad with trolls that piss everyone off. At best, it’ll be a cluster of people and content I’m just going to block anyway.

      • ZeroCool@lemmy.caEnglish
        32·
        9 days ago

        Yep, and let’s not forget that MAGA started as a fringe movement… it’s like some people still refuse to fucking learn.

        • stardust@lemmy.caEnglish
          142·
          9 days ago

          Lets not forget how networks underestimated Trump and led to him getting a lot of coverage, and it resulted in him gaining in popularity to get elected his first term to spread the infection.

          That’s the mistake the left keeps making. They think logic can win out against effective faith based movements founded upon hate with a belief a higher power is on their side. And they waste time debating against something that appeals to the averge person who is desperate and angry. Which is why facism is trending.

          • Maeve@kbin.earth
            4·
            9 days ago

            The networks knew what they were doing and did it for reason$. Anyway, if maggoty is correct it’s um, it’s probably a fed.

          • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.caEnglish
            1·
            8 days ago

            I wouldn’t call him a faith-based movement so much as a populist movement. He just happened to have some talking points that overlapped with the faith-based movements, and he leaned into those to gain his market share. That isn’t what I would call a defense of faith-based movements, either, more a reference of causation vs. correlation.

            • stardust@lemmy.caEnglish
              2·
              8 days ago

              He throws out how something is the best or the worst and makes up false facts and figures and his followers takes him at his word. Same applies to many of his inner circle like RBK with what is supposed to be science.

              What else is it at that point other than faith? Its not grounded in facts but belief. Bringing evidence is dismissed as fake news because the movement doesn’t care about that. It has the usual hallmarks of religion in my eyes.

    • cyborganism@piefed.caEnglish
      5·
      8 days ago

      To be fair, there’s @fuckamerica@maga.place that’s been a real trooper on that instance and posting anti-fascist stuff all over the place. The whole instance has been flooded by them lol!

      Maybe that’s what we should do, just turn it into an anti-Maga instance by flooding it with anti-fascist posts and comments.

  • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zipEnglish
    37·
    8 days ago

    I think everyone should. that’s the whole point of having a decentralized federation system: different people on different instances can decide what’s to Nazi for them to tolerate. Not like Xitter where one dude decides what’s the acceptable level of Nazi everyone should see every day.

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish
    34·
    9 days ago

    any instance they label themselves maga are usually up to no good, its a launch point for trolling/russian backed propaganda.

  • itsame@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32·
    9 days ago

    They are heavily moderating and removing any counter argument. So: YES, defederate!