Be the change you want to see in the world.
throws a Molotov at the next flying cruiser
When you need to ship a cargo
Those ships are powered by baby chickens.
First they load up the tanks full of baby chickens. The chicks travel into a conveyor belt where a long row of old women pick up the chicks to if they are male or female. The females are grown to make more eggs. The males are tossed into the intake. The males are then mixed with air and tar and then injected into the piston at high pressure. Once top dead center is reached, a spark drivers the pressures to hundreds of PSI and as much as 800 C. The chicks have been known to survive up to that moment.
If they can perfect chick injection they will try more compact fuels like puppies, crocks, whales, baby elephants, the homeless and or orphans. They might end up stuck with birds so they might try just eagles. There are enough of each eagle to push the boats a good two or three miles!
Someone has just watched Baraka. Good choice of movie my friend!
you must have some really good weed
We are jealous.
Metal straws are nice
Yeah, but I’m terrible about carrying them with me
Start a cocaine or ketamine habit and you will always remember to have it on hand.
Do they have to be 3 feet long novelty straws?
Just don’t trip
Might get expensive to give one away with every drink
While this scum is allowed allocate all of the world’s resources; every drop of water you conserve goes to their data centers and pleasure fleets.
There is no conservation until they’re gone. It simply cannot be done.
Companies 3 years ago: helping the environment is part of our core values
The same companies one day later: start to heavily use and train AI
helping the environment is part of our core values
By the way, back to commuting to/from the office, people!
you are being generous. They are more like
“Under enlightened Trump’s benevolent leadership we have realized that environmental concerns, inclusivity, modern medicine and preventing political misinformation are all woke scams. Therefore effective immediately we are ditching all our efforts in these directions.”
Amazon bought an entire arena and named it “climate pledge arena”. You can’t make this shit up
That was always just green washing bullshit.
I mean yes, but it’s not like they use an extra drop for every drop conserved, it’s still okay to not be wasteful.
it’s not
It almost literally is. Maybe not responsive at the scale of drops.
No. Fuck that. If the recycling bin still goes straight to the dump, don’t ask me to separate that shit out. It’s kind of offensive.
I would probably take weird ascetic joy in min/maxing my resource use–i genuinely did as a child–but I won’t save shit fot billionaires to abuse. Fuck that and you for suggesting it. Smoke em while you got em. I’ll start conserving when I’m picking lumber for guillotines. Or right after.
Fuck that and you for suggesting it
So unnecessary. Rule 1.
why is your local council providing 2 bins but sending everything to the one place?
when you bought it up what did they say?
Recycling centers try and then often give up and just landfill plastic. And then you’re dealing with the extra transportation to have it make a stop at the recycling plant on the way to the landfill.
There is a lot of “shift the blame off corporations to the consumer and act like they can do something” happening when in reality the consumer can’t do much, and what we can do isnt 100% effective anyway.
That’s funny because over here in Australia it looks to be progressing well?
For us it’s a yellow bin for recycling
Visy – what happens to your household recycling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXSmINKUOxg
Most Australian states have a 10c refund when you return a can or bottle:
Do you have this?
You can even then directly donate it to a charity of your choice: https://www.containersforchange.com.au/qld/donate-your-refund
On top of this if you use https://oceanhero.today/ for searching the money they make from ads goes towards paying people in poor countries to collect plastic
Australia wide we’re slowly phasing out single use plastics:
https://www.marineconservation.org.au/which-australian-states-are-banning-single-use-plastics/
That’s already reducing the amount of plastic by millions of tons
There’s also smaller things like:
Our new cards are made from 100% recycled plastic*, with 64% collected from coastal communities by Parley for the Oceans™.
https://www.bankaust.com.au/card
Recycling centers try and then often give up and just landfill plastic
Sounds like defeatist mentality to me, your councils/states should be doing better
Canada’s west coast is the same. Despite some reports implying the contrary, properly sorted flexible plastic waste does get diverted away from landfills and oceans and remade into product, in BC. And we also have bottle and can deposits, like most Canadian provinces (called consigne/consignment in Québec).
Apparently bottle deposits are only a thing in 10 of 50 US states.
It’s more than just plastic. In most places most things are not recycled. More accurate to say: in vanishingly few places is even a single kind of thing recycled. Then every scrap we save goes not to sustainability, but golf courses pleasure yachts and data centers to sloppify the world.
So saving is not conservation. You literally cannot make a positive impact environmentally unless you’re good at violence.
While this scum is allowed allocate all of the world’s resources; every drop of water you conserve goes to their data centers and pleasure fleets.
Does it? If everyone in America reduced the amount of water they used would data centres and yachts use it all up? Do you believe this?
Yes. Oh my god they have said they want this. They didn’t have to say, but they have.
He didn’t mean water literally (yet, as we are running out of non-salt water…)
But we have (and likely will) if it were to come to rationing their pools would be prioritized our bath or even drinking water
He didn’t mean water literally
It’s still nonsensical, this idea that any savings at all are pointless particularly when you’re talking about small impact spread across 350 million americans and 400 million europeans, it adds up to far more than any data centre could ever hope
Take solar panels for example and the impact they have had:
We’re now emitting 5-8 million LESS tons of co2 per month and regularly have oversupply because there’s too much renewables in the grid:
We now have a booming battery rebate because we need far more storage than solar:
Since the launch of the Cheaper Home Batteries Program on July 1, roughly 161MW of home battery power has been added to the grid per month. At the current pace, the amount added in about 18 months will match the output of Eraring power station – Australia’s biggest coal-fired power plant
https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/battery-rebate-to-deliver-a-coal-plant-of-power-in-18-months/
This is just from regular people like you or I making a small contribution that benefits themselves and the environment
Same with mushy straws but tbh we don’t even really do that anymore do you guys not have something like
The Planet Straw eco-friendly, Biodegradable, Compostable, and Recyclable, Planet-based PHA straws
They’re basically a drop in for plastic straws you wouldn’t know the difference
Non-comparable! In say California there is severe water restrictions even limits shower lengths at times yet pools can still be filled… If the rich weren’t allowed to take up inorbitant amounts of resources say for bezos private airspace tourism or megajacts then there would be a lot more left to us…
But lets talk about personal impact too! Imagine if instead of leaving it to up you to maybe change something the country made the investment? Like it could from the subsidies provided for the solar panels in most countries ( know for a fact thats the case in the us, Germany and Hungary)! And then then the change wouldn’t be a few percentage points, it would actually be considerable!
And still globally the fraction of renewables in electricity gen, and even primary energy consumption (counting renewable elec gen as “primary”), remains pretty steadfast at the levels of the 1990s. The basic reason is that they’re subsidising electricity, making it cheaper and people ( and I count both final consumers and intermediate producers as “people”) are using more of it. The only meaningful hiatuses in the growth of demand was the major recessions in 2008 and 2020, but consumption largely bounced back after those.
Savings are not totally pointless, but reducing prices of something does tend to increase consumption, and erode a notable amount (but granted probably not all) of savings. The earth’s human economy is largely set up to extract and use resources, give it more resources and it grows and extracts and uses more. We’re not going to let large amounts of cheap (or subsidised) resources sit there and go unexploited.
Adding new generation capacity has some similarity to adding a new lane to a busy highway. Induced demand.
From a Europe/EEC point of view It has been major restriction on coal generation (LCPD, IED, and to a minimal extent the EU-ETS) - that has reduced coal use in generation. Renewables doesn’t directly drive out fossil fuel gen , I think it has to be regulated out. Same will be with transport, if you don’t ban petrol, and just subsidise electric transport, there’ll be more trips you wont reduce petrol consumption. And even if you could ban petrol in cars, someone somewhere will start finding a way to use all that cheap fuel for something. The only saving grace for transport is that electric mass transit is way more efficient , than personal transport, and at least China knows what its doing on that front. But I’d be very worried for the planet as more and more people in India continue to start getting cars - I think they’ll easily become a market for any petrol saved by EVs elsewhere…
And still globally the fraction of renewables in electricity gen, and even primary energy consumption (counting renewable elec gen as “primary”), remains pretty steadfast at the levels of the 1990s
I think this might be out of date info, renewables (thanks mainly to china tbh) are now the cheapest form of power and surging with installations:
World surpasses 40% clean power as renewables see record rise
https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/global-electricity-review-2025/#executive-summary
Savings are not totally pointless, but reducing prices of something does tend to increase consumption
Good old Jevons
Adding new generation capacity has some similarity to adding a new lane to a busy highway. Induced demand.
I don’t agree with this, yes there is an increase in energy usage, I am technically using more electricity than ever from thanks to cheap solar because I fill up my car with 40kw worth of electricity every few weeks, but at the same time I now use 0L of petrol and no gas at all so it’s not exactly adding a lane to the highway if I’ve reduced my energy use elsewhere and added it on to renewables, it’s the same number of lanes but now I’m 100% renewable
We also have visible signs it’s eating into fossil fuels:
Closure of Spain’s biggest coal plant makes way for massive wind power development
UK to finish with coal power after 142 years
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y35qz73n8o
The Australian Energy Market Operator is predicting that the country’s remaining coal fired generators are likely to close much quicker than expected, saying they are becoming less reliable, more difficult to maintain and less able to compete with the growing share of renewables.
AEMO’s draft 2024 Integrated System Plan, the latest version of its 30-year planning blueprint, suggests coal fired generation will be gone from Queensland and Victoria within a decade – by 2033/34 – and that the last coal unit will close in NSW by 2038.
Same will be with transport, if you don’t ban petrol, and just subsidise electric transport, there’ll be more trips you wont reduce petrol consumption
This doesn’t make sense to me, if you were talking about cheaper petrol then sure, but if I replace my petrol car with an EV, even if I do more trips it’s still electricity, petrol usage has dropped to 0 despite an increase in trips
And we’re still in the very early years with EV’s, we have only just started pushing out electric trucks and buses, speaking of: Brisbane just got our first electric buses earlier in the year!
Onboard the new Brisbane Metro (now with added Chilli)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oWDE4zh2FA
They are so quiet it’s crazy!
tldr: I think your premise is that electricity usage is increasing and renewables are supplying it but not eating into fossil fuels and I don’t think this is true, the last few years solar, EV and battery innovation has been leaps and bounds
As an example I bought this in Jan 2023 for 14k: https://sonnen.com.au/sonnenbatterie-evo/
10kw
Today for 5.5k I can get 40kw:
I never had any issues with paper straws. Is it a skill issue?
The irony of using AI to make this image…
Humanity really is a lost cause
Edit : My bad, some obvious AI artifacts
Insane that people can’t tell this is a low effort Photoshop and think it’s AI. Look it’s literally a picture of a cropped cruise ship overlapped with a plane. It’s 5min of Gimp
You can see all kinds of typical AI artifacts
Yeah you are right. Didn’t notice the wrong wings. I was looking at the fact it managed to make an entire cruise ship look normal as evidence it was photoshop.
yeah at first glance i thought photoshop; but what human’d spend the time to photoshop that right most engine into the wrong place and make the wing wavy told Maybe this is AI being told to draw an image “in the style of a bad photoshop job”.
Training is expensive. Inference probably cost less than the mushy straw.
Do not patronize these systems, regardless of how small you think your individual impact might be. User counts are used to justify continued investments in these things.
People need to just say no.
I mean they use electricity, you want to advocate for more renewables in your energy mix locally then it doesn’t matter that they use lots of it because it’s renewable anyway
for example mistral is french: https://chat.mistral.ai/chat
MGX, Bpifrance, Nvidia, and Mistral AI plan 1.4GW Paris data center campus
A gigawatt-scale data center cluster is set to be developed outside Paris, France.
And how much co2 does it output? hardly any because France has tons of nuclear power plants:
then it doesn’t matter that they use lots of it because it’s renewable anyway
It does, it always does. There’s for one grey energy, and more importantly this energy can’t be used somewhere else where otherwise fossil fuels were used. We should always be efficient with our energy use…
this energy can’t be used somewhere else where otherwise fossil fuels were used
You think all nuclear power plants and renewables are running at max capacity all the time?
Right so France will probably export less electricity to Germany. Germany will . . . a) use less power b) burn more coal/gas
OK so lets invent option c) where we get Germany build some more nukes. Fine in 20 years time they might have 3-4GW of new nuke capacity, but in the meanwhile . . . there will have been several new data centres built in that time, and millions of houses in the UK will have started using aircon . . . and . . . we’ll be getting pretty close to 500ppm global carbon dioxide anyway.
If you’re going to keep having more people, and people are going to keep buying the same or more stuff each, this line will keep going up.
Germany is an interesting choice, since they shut down their nukes they’ve been pushing hard on renewables
‘Breakneck speed’: Renewables reached 60 per cent of Germany’s power mix last year
If you’re going to keep having more people, and people are going to keep buying the same or more stuff each, this line will keep going up.
That’s true but you have to remember the EU and US are on the downtrend:
There are other countries wiping out those gains, but the west is overall doing the right thing:
We want electricity heavy industries to operate in clean energy heavy environments, this is a positive, it supports the expansion of renewables and the economy
OpenAI to build its first European data centre in Norway, with partners
Nobody:
Larry Ellison: Buys an entire 90,000 acre Hawaiian Island just because
I gotta be honest, I would personally insert a straw into the nose of every baby seal on earth for a flying cruise ship.
That’s sad as hell tbh
Baby seals know what they’ve done
i guess that means since billionaires fly on planes everyone else is free to: /s
Would you recommend a better solution? A high speed railway over the Bering Strait, perhaps?
By far most planes in that screenshot are over land. You’re right, when you have to cross an ocean to get somewhere there isn’t really any alternative, but for all those over land they could’ve constructed and rode high speed railways instead. Countries like China and Japan show they can be proper alternatives, and there is no reason to use anything else for those distances.
“You have fuel efficiency improvements on the order of 1% per year, and flights are increasing 6%,” says Rutherford, “It’s not even close.”
straight up we need to fly less overall, so think of all the things that help reduce people flying and we need to do that
but you’re right, i need to head back to see the family at christmas, look at my options
If the train was the cheapest option then that might be a relaxing travel. But it also uses holiday days you could be using for something else
yep I’m only staying for 3 days so the train ride would 4-5 days and my stay would be 3 days :|
i do want to take the train up to cairns though, that seems nice
You can get a good deal if you ride-share, in this case. If you have too much luggage, the flight won’t be viable either, so it seems like a doable comparison.
If I am reading the map correctly, mountains would come in the way, for a straight line path, but that is not a good enough excuse for not having high speed rail from Yelarbon to Burra, when there is a rail along the coastlines.
And since I don’t know better, I am going to assume that train cost is dues to coastal maintenance costs.
Most of the planes in that screenshot were over land.
I mean usually airports aren’t on top of land, not to mention how much more difficult airtravel would be if you had to reach the airport or plane by boat first hah
And if the infrastructure existed, we’d be golden!
Man, it sure is lucky highways and airports existed before we got here since we’re clearly incapable of building infrastructure.
Real hyperloop, not the Musk bullshit. Scaled up pneumatic tube systems operating at orbital speeds (7 km/s).
