• KingArnulf@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please provide evidence of this uptick in violent leftist extremism.

    • Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      I shouldn’t have to do this. This information is being covered by the liberal media, why are yall seeing this? This isn’t even an “extraordinary” claim. Its the cognitive dissonance that can keep people from seeing things that challenge their own ideas and beliefs.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-15136055/Report-Left-wing-terrorists-carry-attacks-conservatives.html

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/09/charlie-kirk-left-wing-terrorism/684323/

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/25/political-violence-leftist-right-wing/

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        You remind me of Julius Streicher. He used the same evidence standards as you do. He argued that left wing violence was out of control. He did so, like you, not through statistics, but anecdote. He would demonize minority groups and ideologies by breathlessly posting the few crimes committed by them, while ignoring the overwhelming number of crimes committed by conservatives or the racial majority. Fascists thrive on anecdotes and hypotheticals and wither in the face of actual statistics.

        As for your buddy Streicher? We hanged him in 1946 at Nuremberg for crimes against humanity and incitement to genocide.

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        “Right-wing extremists were responsible for the vast majority of domestic terror attacks and foiled or aborted plots in the past 30 years, followed by Islamic jihadis.”

        Yes, clearly it’s the left that’s the problem.

        “However, left-wing attacks were very rarely fatal with only two deaths since 2020 - Luigi Mangione’s alleged assassination of UnitedHealthcare boss Brian Thompson last year, and Michael Reinoehl’s fatal shooting of right-wing protester Aaron Danielson in Portland, Oregon, in August 2020.”

        Well, so much for your claim of “uptick in violent leftist extremism”. Two deaths, and that’s giving you Luigi Mangione as an extreme leftist, which itself is a pretty dubious claim.

        But hey, at least right wing attacks were down the last few years. I wonder why that might be?

        “CSIS said Joe Biden’s crackdown on far-right groups after the January 6, 2021, insurrection also helped, as it left extremist movements in disarray.”

        Oh hmm… well good thing all of those insurrectionists are still in jail so they can’t do any more harm. Oh…wait a minute…

        • Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world
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          16 hours ago

          Well, so much for your claim of “uptick in violent leftist extremism”.

          Wasn’t really my own claim, im just repeating what many news sources are saying, and in one way or another, they are saying violent leftist extremism is on the rise. Why do you seem so personally irked by this? I haven’t really made any other argument other than what I just said. The violence from leftist extremist is on the rise. Thats it. Quit with whataboutisms. It is it what it is. Dont make assumptions, and dont put words in others mouths.