You’re looking for an example of fascism not being allowed to take power? Because there are countless countries in the world today that are not run by fascist. Those are your examples.
The point is about the structures of liberal bourgeois run democracy that lead to fascist being supported by the ruling class in order to maintain their class power.
I think you’re misunderstanding how fascist take power and how they maintain it. I also think it’s very unhelpful to say “it’s human nature”. It’s a meaningless phrase we use to explain why things can’t change. Even though all of human history has been countless changes to the structures of power and the allocation of resources. And being human is literally about defying nature.
Humans can change. I’m not sure yet whether humanity can. Human nature is a thing, though I think the only difference between us and any other animal is enlightened self-interest.
Also I didn’t even specify fascist, but it does feel like the entire world has drifted rightward in the last 30 years, but if I’m honest it’s probably been since Eisenhower in fits and starts. Far right has been trending upward throughout Europe. I don’t know what democracies aren’t, as I said.
Looks to me like America is just ahead of the curve and shaping up to be the next big bad that gets everyone else to unite and decide fascism is bad again. Maybe I’m just feeling overwhelmed and cynical right now.
I am of the mind that human societies - and in turn, humanity as a whole - undergoes something like the Anacyclosis cycle. A new society is vibrant and lead by good people, but over time the leadership becomes increasingly corrupt. Eventually, that society dies and a new generation will create an initially good society that will go once again through the process.
We just are in the unfortunate position of experiencing the roughest part of the cycle. It is our task to ensure that our children and beliefs are allowed to become the best that they can be.
You’re looking for an example of fascism not being allowed to take power? Because there are countless countries in the world today that are not run by fascist. Those are your examples.
The point is about the structures of liberal bourgeois run democracy that lead to fascist being supported by the ruling class in order to maintain their class power.
I think you’re misunderstanding how fascist take power and how they maintain it. I also think it’s very unhelpful to say “it’s human nature”. It’s a meaningless phrase we use to explain why things can’t change. Even though all of human history has been countless changes to the structures of power and the allocation of resources. And being human is literally about defying nature.
Humans can change. I’m not sure yet whether humanity can. Human nature is a thing, though I think the only difference between us and any other animal is enlightened self-interest.
Also I didn’t even specify fascist, but it does feel like the entire world has drifted rightward in the last 30 years, but if I’m honest it’s probably been since Eisenhower in fits and starts. Far right has been trending upward throughout Europe. I don’t know what democracies aren’t, as I said.
Looks to me like America is just ahead of the curve and shaping up to be the next big bad that gets everyone else to unite and decide fascism is bad again. Maybe I’m just feeling overwhelmed and cynical right now.
I am of the mind that human societies - and in turn, humanity as a whole - undergoes something like the Anacyclosis cycle. A new society is vibrant and lead by good people, but over time the leadership becomes increasingly corrupt. Eventually, that society dies and a new generation will create an initially good society that will go once again through the process.
We just are in the unfortunate position of experiencing the roughest part of the cycle. It is our task to ensure that our children and beliefs are allowed to become the best that they can be.
Is Every Civilization Doomed to Fail? - Gregory Aldrete