• oortjunk@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    Holy crap does it ever not.

    Speaking from past lived experience trying to get to work in -30c weather in my old city, and the once-every-half-hour bus is either full, late, or broken down. FORGET that noise.

    It’s definitely better where I am now l, but vast swaths of cityscape in my country are massively underserved, and I would assert that calling it “daunting” is comically trivializing the daily stress of trying to make a schedule happen in those cases.

    Just telling someone to buck up and endure that is extremely condescending; you’ll win so few allies to your cause with this approach (which I, incidentally l, support). You’re basically saying their time is of little to no value, and what they want to accomplish with it doesn’t matter. And time is the only true non-renewable resource in your life, kids.

    So, I say thee: nay.

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      12 hours ago

      I’m not speaking without doing. I’ve done as cold as it gets in my city, which is admittedly short of -30c, probably closer to -23c. This is about bikes, not buses. (But honestly goes for both!)

      People aren’t going to like being told it. But I’m ever of the opinion that people who whine when told they’re wrong are not ever going to be the ones changing in the first place. They merely sit there, in the comfort of the car, justifying their decision by pretending the gas guzzling environment harming and dangerous vehicles are somehow justified by the small amount of lightly discomfortable weather and short bikeable rides.

      You’re basically saying their time is of little to no value, and what they want to accomplish with it doesn’t matter

      It’s not of little value. It’s the amount saved by driving is not worth it. For them and for others.

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        10 hours ago

        Bikes would be even worse imo. Your uphill battle just got much steeper. You’re also not helping anything by making the sweeping generalizations you seem to enjoy making.

        I can’t say I have heard it before from countless others (to precisely no avail), but regardless, best of luck in gathering momentum for your cause.

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          9 hours ago

          Bikes are not even half as hard as you think they are.

          best of luck in gathering momentum for your cause.

          Thankfully, there’s already significant momentum, bike lanes and transit are growing stronger.