And trinitarianism specifically is basically just a reason to wage wars. I was raised in a trinitarian denomination and I still mostly consider myself Christian but I can’t reconcile my morals with waging literal wars over fucking metaphysics.
Depending on the exact denomination of Christian. There is no big difference between how many christians view satan and how polytheistic religions view some of the less nice gods.
Yeah see this is how I know you’re not serious. The author of that article isn’t “some guy”, he’s an incredibly respected and accomplished historian and archaeologist, specializing in ancient near-east civilizations. And you couldn’t be bothered to read past the first paragraph. You don’t want to have an actual discussion about this.
Wikipedia is a source of sources. You can scroll down to the bottom of the damn page and view the original sources if you really need the originals. No, you’re just using this as an excuse. Fuck off. Everyone can see right through this.
Lol. Meanwhile here you are, policing what people provide as evidence because you only accept something that supports your worldview. You should be a wiki moderator apparently… oh wait, they actually have standards.
Then check the sources listed under that wiki article.
If you couldn’t be bothered to look up something as simple and undisputed as this, then it’s really silly to make a stand with “Wikipedia isn’t a source”, it just makes you look like a bad troll.
What do you mean “undisputed”. The whole pantheon thing is a historical reconstructed theory, not a fact. You’d find millions of people who’d dispute a claim as absurd as pre-messianic Judaism not originally being monotheistic.
Now yes, the israelites have practiced polytheism several times. The Bible records this. But the Christian religion has always been monotheistic.
Yep, undisputed. Except by religious zealots who resort to bad faith arguments when some of their cultist beliefs are not accepted as fact by non believers, but on those subjects, those people aren’t taken seriously by anyone except others from their cult, so yes, pretty much undisputed.
You’re acting as if there’s actually solid evidence for this theory. There really isn’t. We know polytheism existed, that doesn’t mean it was necessarily the origin. Heck, there are even hindus today that claim to worship Jesus. Does that mean that Jesus originated in Hinduism? No.
That isn’t even remotely analogous to this situation.
One easy way to know it’s the origin is to recognize that every religion is an evolution of other religions on the area. The others are polytheistic. It would only be reasonable to assume Judaism originated from the same practice, and we can observe similarities between Judaism and local religions of the time and find they share some aspects, implying they have the same origin. That origin being polytheistic.
The religion of the Israelites wasn’t even monotheistic at first. Yahweh was one of many gods.
And Christianity isn’t technically monotheistic either, as it has the trinity of God, Christ, and the Spooky Spirit… errrm… I mean Holy Ghost.
And trinitarianism specifically is basically just a reason to wage wars. I was raised in a trinitarian denomination and I still mostly consider myself Christian but I can’t reconcile my morals with waging literal wars over fucking metaphysics.
It really is tho. The 3 are the same thing. Different parts/names of one entity. Probably wasn’t originally, but def is now
Depending on the exact denomination of Christian. There is no big difference between how many christians view satan and how polytheistic religions view some of the less nice gods.
“That’s Modalism, Patrick!”
Loved that video until I looked at some of the creators other videos.
Does not make sense to me, but that bit was not doctrine until 350 ad.
That’s tritheism, Patrick!
Also, he was a war god.
source?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
Wikipedia isn’t a source
Sloth is a sin
https://repositorio.uca.edu.ar/handle/123456789/15051
So some guy has an alternative theory
That’s because the israelites were the worshippers of Yahweh
Yeah see this is how I know you’re not serious. The author of that article isn’t “some guy”, he’s an incredibly respected and accomplished historian and archaeologist, specializing in ancient near-east civilizations. And you couldn’t be bothered to read past the first paragraph. You don’t want to have an actual discussion about this.
I read all there was contained on the list. He admits it is literally just a theory
Wikipedia is a source of sources. You can scroll down to the bottom of the damn page and view the original sources if you really need the originals. No, you’re just using this as an excuse. Fuck off. Everyone can see right through this.
Wikipedia is policed by radical jobless atheists like tgeorgescu who deliberately delete Christian sources
Lol. Meanwhile here you are, policing what people provide as evidence because you only accept something that supports your worldview. You should be a wiki moderator apparently… oh wait, they actually have standards.
Wikipedia isn’t a source. A whole Wikipedia article doesn’t back up your claim.
source?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism
wikipedia isn’t a source
Sorry professor
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
You should have just looked this up yourself. It’s going to be the first result in most search engines.
wikipedia isn’t a source
Then check the sources listed under that wiki article.
If you couldn’t be bothered to look up something as simple and undisputed as this, then it’s really silly to make a stand with “Wikipedia isn’t a source”, it just makes you look like a bad troll.
What do you mean “undisputed”. The whole pantheon thing is a historical reconstructed theory, not a fact. You’d find millions of people who’d dispute a claim as absurd as pre-messianic Judaism not originally being monotheistic.
Now yes, the israelites have practiced polytheism several times. The Bible records this. But the Christian religion has always been monotheistic.
Yep, undisputed. Except by religious zealots who resort to bad faith arguments when some of their cultist beliefs are not accepted as fact by non believers, but on those subjects, those people aren’t taken seriously by anyone except others from their cult, so yes, pretty much undisputed.
You’re acting as if there’s actually solid evidence for this theory. There really isn’t. We know polytheism existed, that doesn’t mean it was necessarily the origin. Heck, there are even hindus today that claim to worship Jesus. Does that mean that Jesus originated in Hinduism? No.
That isn’t even remotely analogous to this situation.
One easy way to know it’s the origin is to recognize that every religion is an evolution of other religions on the area. The others are polytheistic. It would only be reasonable to assume Judaism originated from the same practice, and we can observe similarities between Judaism and local religions of the time and find they share some aspects, implying they have the same origin. That origin being polytheistic.