Archive article: https://archive.is/EfZkV “We don’t have a military full of Nordic pagans,” he said. “No more beards, long hair, superficial individual expression,” he added. “We’re going to cut our hair, shave our beards, and adhere to standards.”

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    Yes, he insulted very high ranking officers.

    Yes, it will piss them off.

    But most unfortunately, some of them are going to resign “in protest” and be replaced by bootlickers who do whatever trump says.

    That is the goal, it’s not to get them on Trump’s side, it’s a desperate attempt to get the ones willing to fight to quit before they can really fight in a meaningful way

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      The military brass are well aware of the result of them stepping down in protest. These guys are warriors and see themselves as patriots. Many, if not all, are pretty politically savvy as well. If they’re not strongly aligned with fascism, they will stoutly defend the Constitution from this idiotic horde and that means keeping their post and making difficult choices if the need arises.

      I promise you, all of these guys have mentally prepared for this moment. Threats foreign and domestic. They know the “domestic” line is the least likely to occur but the most difficult to navigate. And they likely play out scenarios in their heads all the time to be prepared. They’re well-read on historical coups and not blind to what is on the line in front of them. It is not uncommon for military leaders to appreciate the benefits of authoritarianism, but when it occurs, historically, it’s easily spun as using authoritarianism to protect the country in some way. We can all see the grift. A teenager can logic what these chucklefucks on stage are trying to do. The military leaders are not going to give up their country for anything the Trump administration is selling.

      The administration is full of idiots and headed by a narcissist. This meeting was likely a test. If they thought the military was with them, they’d ramp up project 2025 and try to take control. Seeing that the military isn’t fully with them, they’ll pivot and try to foment even more fear among the citizens. Get that divide going which they think the military will react to. The military leaders likely will see through that as well. But I also don’t think the administration has the support anymore to bring about the civil war they want. There are too many cracks forming in their supporters. They will still try it. They have to. They know the harshest elements of Project 2025 will cause upheaval and dissent. Without the brainwashing, without the military I don’t think they can pull it off. But they will still cause a lot of damage before they’re stopped.

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        9 days ago

        These guys are warriors and see themselves as patriots.

        Lol

        Ok buddy, they definitely are in all the movies

        In real life you can’t get that high up without fucking more than a few people over.

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          Military officers mostly have college degrees and are professionals and leadership experts. In addition to this they have extensive military training. High ranking officers are some of the most intelligent and experienced folks you will meet. Certainly more trustworthy than the majority of CEOs, politicians, and talk show hosts that have far more power than they should.

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            High ranking officers are some of the most intelligent and experienced folks you will meet.

            Lol

            Have you literally ever interacted with any military officer in a professional capacity?

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              Yes, yes I have. It seems that you have not, nor do you understand the requirements of becoming even a low ranking CO.

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                Once you’ve watched a Captain get relieved of his command and get sent to the sandbox to count ammo in a connex and then get PROMOTED to Major, you know that it’s all made up.

                O-1 through O-4 are basically the same as E-1 through E-4, Automatic.

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                nor do you understand the requirements of becoming even a low ranking CO.

                A college degree and a pulse?

                Yeah man, it’s super fucking difficult…

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          Yeah. That’s why I mentioned the politically savvy part. A very few seem to get there on just time and merit. Most have the political acumen and ruthlessness to rise through the ranks within a terrible system.

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            Still completely wrong…

            Do you even know someone who’s been in the military?

            Or are you basing opinions on Major Dad reruns?

            Because the multiple issues with the promotion system was actually a multi episode arc on that show, even back then…

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              I’ve spent the last decade as a proxy voice for conscientious objectors and my girlfriend’s dad just retired a few years ago as a major general in the national guard. Does that count?

              Edit: The governor threw him a gala event for his retirement and all.

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                and my girlfriend’s dad just retired a few years ago as a major general in the national guard. Does that count?

                Nope.

                It’s your GFs dad, but I’m sure he is very impressive to a teenager.

                Not even getting into the “guard” aspect…

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      No, they won’t. This is a childish humiliation ritual… Every one of them has gone through basic. They can sit there are zone out when someone screams at them, I’m sure they can handle watching a content creator make a fool of themselves for an afternoon

      These aren’t politicians or powerless administrators. The people Hegseth pulled off their jobs are the final line of defense for the constitution

      They have actual power, they’re not going to performatively give it up and comply in advance

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          This same group of people basically quietly removed Trump from power after Jan 6

          The national guard is picking up trash in DC, they had to be ordered to carry weapons. They managed to throw a military parade without marching, if you watch the footage you can see individuals accidentally matching up their steps and staggering them again

          The military as a whole is not on board with any of this, and they’re a very critical key to power