Pertissue Fisher, who lives in the building, told ABC7 Chicago that ICE agents forced everyone out and only asked questions later. Fisher said she was handcuffed and questioned before being released at around 3 a.m. The officers, she noted, “just treated us like we were nothing,” and, “It was scary, because I had never had a gun in my face.”
Another ABC7 interviewee ducked upon hearing flash bangs denote, and was then distressed by the sight of children detained. “They was bringing the kids down too, had them zip-tied to each other,” she said. “That’s all I kept asking. What is the morality? Where’s the human? One of them literally laughed. He was standing right here. He said, ‘f*** them kids.’”
A witness of the same name told the Chicago Sun-Times it was “heartbreaking” to see “kids coming out buck naked and taken from their mothers.”
Witness Darrell Ballard recalled seeing the agents use a “big, 15-inch chain saw” to cut down a fence. “We’re under siege,” he said. “We’re being invaded by our own military.”
You (apparently) voted for a party that has continuously supported literal genocide with their policies so don’t go preaching
Gaza Genocide was going to happen no matter who we voted for. Gestapo was only going to happen at this scale under Trump.
“Shat on and punched in the gut, or just punched in the gut?”
“Punched in the gut?? Outrageous!! I’ll take ‘shat on and punched in the gut.’”
Worst whataboutism attempt ever.
Go back to troll school.
So you didn’t learn your lesson after all, that’s…some pretty hard headed shit.
The system this government designed doesn’t work when people are willing to compromise on such things. It only works when people can reasonably vote FOR someone. Years of democratic “compromise” while the democratic party fought just as hard as the GOP against any chance of a third party emerging (or changing the party from within) led us to this moment. If you don’t see that it’s because you still buy into the strawman they have been shoving down your throat for decades. Please read Kamala Harris’ book for more details.
So your argument is both roads lead to hell?
Well, I still prefer the one that takes MUCH longer to get there.
Because that protest vote not only sped up Gaza, but also managed to include every other minority in the complete destruction of American democracy.
You did it reallykindasorta! (apparently ofc.) Gaza is saved! Hurray!
A genocide abroad B genocide abroad plus nazis domestically
Neither of these stances represent my values. Neither are acceptable. If someone kidnapped you and gave you those two choices would you choose one? Would you participate in a decision-making body giving you only those choices or would you call BS on the legitimacy of the body itself?
Yes, if someone told me to choose between two bad things or one bad thing, I would choose one bad thing. “No bad things” isn’t currently an option. Calling BS on the whole thing and allowing “two bad things” to happen is a serious self-own.
The problem is that you feel obligated to push one of the buttons. I feel like I’ve explained myself clearly and concisely so I guess that’s all I can do.
Hope I gave some folks food for thought but I will continue my real contribution in the streets and I encourage anyone who can, especially if you’re not on a visa and are white, to stand with us. I was horrified as a kid learning how cowardly most germans were during the holocaust both with their voting and with their capitulation (and, often, complicity) when their neighbors were being rounded up.
people like the ones you’re responding will never accept the reality that they’re part of the problem and trying to explain it to them should only be done if you’re getting something out of it; like spotting holes in your own political theory.
they’re such an overwhelming majority that their views will self perpetuate until the system become untenable; you have to keep your eye on the long game.
I know, I know:( As a personal principle I try to give people the benefit of the doubt when I have the energy, but I acknowledge this is out of blind hope.
so no vote is genocide abroad because in the case of the us. I mean it does not stop since we are not doing it. So not voting and voting A are functionally the same.
And we’re back to: this is what you voted for!
I think if you truly accepted that, you wouldn’t care that I point it out. But you did care.
Oh my gosh, you people are real? Wow, didn’t know there were people more gullible than conservatives…