No, he never does; I’m aware of this. However, it would be worse if he never criticized them at all. I don’t share his optimism about “the squad” and their adjacent cast of characters. He believes they can be reformed. I do not.
That sums up everything you need to know about his position. He clearly has a base understanding of Marxism and Marxism-Leninism. However, Leninism at no point enters into his operational framework in the context of America. He exposes people to Marx’s ideas but doesn’t engage with them directly and explicitly isn’t interested in discussing theory at all with his audience.
I brought up PSL because I was the one who was advocating we vote for them, not Hasan, if that wasn’t clear. I have, for a while not, grown out of the positions he holds into ones to the left of his.
The gold standard that sits at the center of his position is always South Africa. I think there is something to be said about the distinct difference between a place like South Africa and, say, Vietnam. When French Indochina fell in the 1950s many of the French settlers fled, to my understanding, and concurrently, they constituted a much smaller portion of the population compared to the native population. (in scratching this out because I need to do more reading on both of these events.) Often I feel like Hasan is taking a “realpolitik” approach to these topics, rather than an ideological one, because again, I don’t think Marxism or Marxism-Leninism is a primary guiding worldview for him.
I won’t “square this circle” (I don’t mean this antagonistically, just that, I’m willing to accept critique of Hasan, because obviously, I have my own) because I haven’t seen this video, but I don’t agree with him based on what I’m seeing through skimming the transcript. I also don’t take his hyperbolic rhetoric at face value either, but that doesn’t change my thoughts on his actual position.
He sees “abolition of apartheid” as a more realistic alternative than the destruction of Israel
Yup, South Africa is his gold standard. In the previous video he mocks “settlers” readers, which again shows you that he is at a minimum aware of these critical works, but he doesn’t believe that they contribute to any sort of real solutions. He is an incredibly mixed bag, and I think every day there is a Hasan watcher who grows beyond his limitations in the way that I did.
Yeah I think we should be critical of him, or at a minimum understand where here sits in the landscape of political thought. I can’t put all the causality on Hasan for my radicalization, but he contributed, same with Sanders, as well as his betrayal at the hands of the Democrats. I needed to hear Sander’s perspective and also see him cut down. Much in the same way that I’m sure my SO needed to hear Hasan and seem him get evicted by the Democrats.
Were all at different stages of our own radicalization. All these figures and events have a role to play in that process.
If I’m growing beyond Hasan’s positions I don’t doubt others are too. We should strive to help others grow in the same way. If there is one thing me and Hasan agree on is that people can change, if they couldn’t, then Leninism would have failed over and over again.
No, he never does; I’m aware of this. However, it would be worse if he never criticized them at all. I don’t share his optimism about “the squad” and their adjacent cast of characters. He believes they can be reformed. I do not.
And he never will, because, as GQ describes his “career”, it is a protracted and so far largely unsuccessful effort to “pull the Democrats to be more radical, to be actually progressive.”
That sums up everything you need to know about his position. He clearly has a base understanding of Marxism and Marxism-Leninism. However, Leninism at no point enters into his operational framework in the context of America. He exposes people to Marx’s ideas but doesn’t engage with them directly and explicitly isn’t interested in discussing theory at all with his audience.
I brought up PSL because I was the one who was advocating we vote for them, not Hasan, if that wasn’t clear. I have, for a while not, grown out of the positions he holds into ones to the left of his.
The gold standard that sits at the center of his position is always South Africa.
I think there is something to be said about the distinct difference between a place like South Africa and, say, Vietnam. When French Indochina fell in the 1950s many of the French settlers fled, to my understanding, and concurrently, they constituted a much smaller portion of the population compared to the native population.(in scratching this out because I need to do more reading on both of these events.) Often I feel like Hasan is taking a “realpolitik” approach to these topics, rather than an ideological one, because again, I don’t think Marxism or Marxism-Leninism is a primary guiding worldview for him.I won’t “square this circle” (I don’t mean this antagonistically, just that, I’m willing to accept critique of Hasan, because obviously, I have my own) because I haven’t seen this video, but I don’t agree with him based on what I’m seeing through skimming the transcript. I also don’t take his hyperbolic rhetoric at face value either, but that doesn’t change my thoughts on his actual position.
Yup, South Africa is his gold standard. In the previous video he mocks “settlers” readers, which again shows you that he is at a minimum aware of these critical works, but he doesn’t believe that they contribute to any sort of real solutions. He is an incredibly mixed bag, and I think every day there is a Hasan watcher who grows beyond his limitations in the way that I did.
Ok we’re def on the same page. I truly hope you’re right about Hasan watchers growing past him
Yeah I think we should be critical of him, or at a minimum understand where here sits in the landscape of political thought. I can’t put all the causality on Hasan for my radicalization, but he contributed, same with Sanders, as well as his betrayal at the hands of the Democrats. I needed to hear Sander’s perspective and also see him cut down. Much in the same way that I’m sure my SO needed to hear Hasan and seem him get evicted by the Democrats.
Were all at different stages of our own radicalization. All these figures and events have a role to play in that process.
If I’m growing beyond Hasan’s positions I don’t doubt others are too. We should strive to help others grow in the same way. If there is one thing me and Hasan agree on is that people can change, if they couldn’t, then Leninism would have failed over and over again.
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