The topic was why it took the shitlibs and Hasanabi-watching leftists (lol) a fucking tattoo to denounce Graham Platner, an Iraq veteran who did 4 trips to the war zone and then joined the Blackwater mercenary company to kill even more people.

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    25 days ago

    You’re still throwing a tantrum and missing the point continuously because of that fact. It’s very tiresome. I’ve put up with far too much adult child behavior in my life. Not taking it from you. Grow up or shut up.

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        23 days ago

        Your account is 4 years old and you’ve never read this rule of the instance?

        Be respectful. This is a safe space where all comrades should feel welcome; this includes a warning against uncritical sectarianism.

        People should try to act like adults, it’s not supposed to be a high bar for adults to meet. I can only guess you’ve never tried to organize anyone for anything if you think people being able to regulate their emotions isn’t important; that expecting them to do so is some kind of, what, liberalism? Do you want the most loud and angry people bullying their way into running things? Because not pushing back against that kind of stuff is how you get the most loud and angry people running things. I have some experience with the worst kinds of those people, up close and through others’ experiences, and if anything I’d call it liberalism to “go along to get along” with such behavior instead of pushing back against it. When those people are allowed to get away with what they do consistently, they make the world revolve around them and they get others bending over backward to soothe them. Notice how similar that description is to how young children can be, except that young children are that way because they haven’t had the chance to learn how to regulate yet, they have extra trouble communicating and advocating for their needs, and they need extra attention and care. Once you get to be an adult, the expectation is that you grow past this hyper vulnerable state.

        It doesn’t mean you’re now bootstraps as an adult. It just means people shouldn’t be having to “manage” you so that you don’t pop off and make things harder on everyone else.

        There are situations where people get upset about things in a valid way, even as an adult. And some of the stuff we are aware of in the context of a form like this one is very angering. It doesn’t change the fact that other people are not punching bags.

        It reminds of the situation I’ve also seen online where some “leftists” would throw insults at “rightists” that are meant to put them down, but are insults that end up being some kind of -ism territory in the process and are more a reinforcement of the status quo than fighting against it. In the same way, having a “leftist” message is not a shield to hide behind immature behavior. Letting people operate that way consistently enough is how you get cult of personality sectarian offshoots.

        So no, this is not “civility policing.” I didn’t demand someone say please and thank you, and only speak during their allowed five minutes duration and say their points are invalid if what they say extends beyond their five minutes. I told them to act like an adult, which is in line with the expectations of the instance’s rules.