It doesn’t get more pathetic than this.

Oh I disagree that the Democrats won’t be more pathetic than this.

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    It literally was. His approval was collapsing. Why the fuck is this so hard for anyone with an ounce of power?

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          Pretty sure all the ones that did this aren’t up for election.
          These slimy fucks just used the shutdown to win the elections.

          We need to impeach them, or somehow get the electorate to have a memory longer than a goldfish

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            The ones that voted are either A) Retiring, or B) Not up for Reelection in '26, yes.

            They almost certainly did this either under pressure from the air travel lobby to not let this disrupt the thanksgiving air travel season, or because they were actually worried that Trump was going to get enough votes to nuke the filibuster.

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            They won’t need a memory much longer than that if they keep being reminded of just how much they’ve been massively fucked over and over again.

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      STOP thinking about Yourself and START thinking about the Rich People who’s Private Jets were being Grounded and Stocks going DOWN! This was ALMOST becoming a TRAGEDY! It’s a GOOD thing Dems caved when they did before something CATASTROPHIC happened like MILLIONS of Children going Hungry! MILLIONS of Working Class Families losing Healthcare! Rich people Feeling UNCOMFORTABLE!

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      I imagine they see reality quite differently from people younger than them do. Like a box was built around them to keep them blind. Nothing else makes sense.

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      I’m pretty sure some of their flights out of DCA were moderately delayed. It was horrific!

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      Ezra Klein had an interesting take which was that the shutdown was to actually to bring attention to the healthcare subsidy issue in a very public way, even though they knew Trump would never negotiate on the issue in the end. But now they have a massive policy cudgel, and the media initiative heading into the midterms.

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      Yup. Snatching defeat from the stomach of victory.

      I mean these spinless MF’ers had to reach down deep, past the jaws of victory, just to pull out the comfort of being a conservative.

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    "Standing up to trump didnt work… sure republicans were panicking and melting down at the overwhelming support democrats had at the time, literally convinced the GOP was on the verge of extinction, and had the overwhelming majority of people blaming Republicans for it all…

    but I didnt want to risk the ACA subsudies actually going through, cause thats what I’ve already built my next campaign around, so we gave trump everything he wanted without getting a single thing"

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    Uhh, more Americans blamed Republicans and Trump’s approval tanked.

    This guy is full of fucking shit. There was no reason relent and it would’ve set Dems up for success next year.

    Primary them all.

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      When they say “standing up to Trump didn’t work” they actually mean that their corporate donors got mad at them and threatened to cut them off

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        Start some grassroots movements to kick the fuckers out? There’s gotta be some mechanism they can be removed by.

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        You’re not wrong sadly:

        • We saw that with Cuomo going Independent against Mamdani
        • We saw Sinema flip Independent
        • We saw basically the same thing when DINO billionaire Bloomberg derailed Sanders and Warren in 2020.
        • We’ll almost certainly see Fetterman do the same thing.

        At least with Mamdani’s case, it was worth trying.

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    I’m so glad those who were put in place to speak for me decided to roll over and get ass fucked because why not. These people don’t deserve to show their face in public anymore, what a fucking disgrace.

    Walter Masterson has a great video on trolling Chuck Schumer https://youtu.be/GzJBjVwWS6A

    P.s. there fixed your algorithm for ya

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    Well this is pretty much exactly what Republicans needed.

    They pitched that they were perfectly willing to be reasonable and the democrats were the crazy ones.

    Now they pass an extension, specifying to block the non-existent illegal immigrant gap and say “see, we were ready to take care of the people, but the democrats forced things to be bad, and these few democrats reluctantly came over which just proves they were in the wrong”

    Another chunk of what I assume is their strategy: Make 2025 bad in ways to make it easier to make 2026 feel great by comparison.

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    If he thinks it doesn’t work, then why doesn’t he resign? The whole point of having senators is that they have some power and if they simply don’t believe they have any, then they literally serve no purpose. And it’s one thing to fight against Trump and lose and realize that you were mistaken, that you thought you had some control. But it’s another to keep working your job and collecting the paycheck while openly admitting you’re powerless.

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    Did King really believe this, or were there other reasons why he caved? His son, Angus King III, is running for governor of Maine, and Senator King’s decision may have been a misguided attempt to help him. King is also not up for reelection until 2030, so perhaps he thought he could escape electoral consequences.

    Isn’t the election already over? How does caving now help? And if the gubernatorial election hasn’t happened yet, well, vote for the other Democratic candidate, I guess?

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      It’s probably a move to appease the corporate donors. I believe it kicks the can for the shutdown to be next year since it’s pretty much guaranteed to happen again.

      Dems made them promise to put those ACA measures back in next year. They can light a fire under Republicans during midterms if they don’t stick to their word and there could even be another shutdown which would tank Republicans at the polls.

      It was a weak move to cave this time around, but there’s a lot of room to demand even more when it’s right around midterms.

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        Dems made them promise to put those ACA measures back in next year.

        They got Thune to promise a separate vote in the senate on the ACA credits, probably in December. Even if that passed in the senate, Johnson won’t schedule a vote on it in the house. And if by some miracle it passed the house, Trump would just veto it.

        It’s nothing. It’s absolutely nothing. At most they got Republicans to vote against ACA credits specifically, which is nothing compared to other shit they’ve already voted on, and will be far less effective than letting them take the heat for the shut down. The fact that they were willing to prolong the shut down just to kill the ACA credits says a lot more than a simple vote would.

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          Even if trump were to sign it, enrollment ends on December 15th, so agreeing to hold a vote in December basically guarantees people will be hit with higher premiums which is what they were fighting to avoid.

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            Blue states need to implement their own public healthcare options. The longer we rely on the Federal government for it, the more likely it gets taken away at this point in time. People living in Purple and Red states will be the ones demanding it if all the Blue states are not even using it.

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        Dems made them promise

        Can’t trust the promise of liars. They threw it all away for a promise of a vote that will never fucking happen.

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          If Dems are smart they would use the failure to deliver on that promise by Republicans and the possibility of another shutdown to pass positive legislation leading up to midterms.

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            This was the only leverage dems had for this congressional budget year. They gave it up for a vote on a single concession, which will be voted against.

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              Corporations likely came in requesting things to open back up else a lot of the corporate donor money would stop. It was not a good move to fold, imo, they likely are aiming to make this a next year’s issue.

              If Republicans vote against the concession then that will make even Republican voters upset, since so many people depend on having lower health insurance premiums via the ACA subsidies.

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    Remember how well “if you can’t fight them, join them!” worked for all of those people in Nazi Germany and WW2? Definitely caving in to the Nazis was a smart move…

    Trump is a loser piece of shit wannabe Nazi, you don’t cave to Nazis, you fight them at all costs because caving is always worse than you think it is.

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    In any other circumstance, this would be the end of the conversation. There’s no point in further conversation because even when their entire job is literally “do nothing”, they refuse to do it. So, you walk away, tell Security to remove them from the building, and let them know all further communication will be done through legal representation.

    The fact that this isn’t happening shows that the entire system was doomed to begin with.

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      They’re not up for reelection next cycle, so they’re already getting fired, it’s just too bad that’s not happening for several months and it already fucked this particular situation and everything behind it (and they’ll do it again before they’re gone).

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    Just make him a fucking king already then, you spineless mollusks. That’ll make your jobs much easier so you won’t have to make hard decisions like choosing to fight for your constituents.

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    Millenials, Gen Z this is your chance. Start running to take congress and senate positions in the next elections. Or find new people to support. Things do not have to stay the way they have been. There is enough of the voting population outside of the boomer gen now to change voting outcomes but you need to put yourself out there and not hope for someone else to do it for you.
    In the meantime, do what you can with your spending. Don’t send any money to billionaires even if that means giving up stuff you currently buy. Time to start starving the billionaire class since the (current) governments are owned by them.

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    Tbf you’d have to actually try first instead of caving immediately.