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ByteOnBikes@discuss.online to THE POLICE PROBLEM@lemmy.worldEnglish · 6 days ago

Agents claimed one thing, body camera claims another. How odd

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Agents claimed one thing, body camera claims another. How odd

ByteOnBikes@discuss.online to THE POLICE PROBLEM@lemmy.worldEnglish · 6 days ago
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  • mad_lentil@lemmy.ca
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    Just in case you thought you could believe any of their self-reporting. They will always lie to protect themselves.

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    So the “agents” will be charged with perjury for lying, right? fired from their jobs? banned from law enforcement?

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      They will each receive a free puppy for target practice.

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    Until we start charging cops the way we would charge anyone else, it’s going to be a very attractive job for people that think shooting people sounds fun.

    • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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      disagree, cops should have much more serious consequences, they should be aware of the law, and abusing their status makes whatever crime they committed much more serious than if a civilian did.

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      Oh you mean like that cop who had “You’re fucked” on his rifle

      https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/youre-fucked-acquittal-officer-brailsford-and

    • mad_lentil@lemmy.ca
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      Right? It’s like oh didn’t we used to have a serial killer problem? Where did they all go?? Ummm

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    I hope she wins a civil lawsuit big enough to actually hurt the agency and ensure she and her hiers never have to work again

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      I wish we lived in a world where law enforcement trying to murder someone and lying about it were punished more harshly than the general populace.

    • SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world
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      The agents won’t pay for this, the public will. There is no real accountability.

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        Police should be required to carry insurance like doctors. Uninsurable? Unhireable.

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      Given the astronomical budget of this agency, which is equivalent to the military spending of medium-sized countries, this is unfortunately highly unlikely.

      And, as others have already said: it is the citizens who pay for all of it.

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        We pay for it by the erosion of the tolerant pluralistic democracy that we inherited but are not presently keeping

    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Oh sweet summer child. The only ones hurt by this are the victim and the tax payers.

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    Sounds like those guys are all getting a bonus. This is not sarcasm.

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    “Well, we didn’t want to get in trouble”

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      “It saved a lot of paperwork for everyone involved”

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    Here is a fucking a source, some of y’all need to learn to look shit up

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      I disagree. The onus for providing a source is on OP for posting a screencap of a tweet. This needs to be a fediverse-wide rule, IMO.

      Source the claims you post people, please.

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    Right wingers claim that the death penalty acts as a deterrent, right? So maybe they need to get the death penalty here.

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    Martinez her lawyer defending her against the public government accusations: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/16/us/video/dhs-martinez-car-jimenez-dnt-digvid

    Local Chicago breaking news about how the dhs narrative holds no water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=CtXQy-NhSPo

    The bodycam evidence that completely exonerates Martinez isn’t released yet to the public afaik, at least I couldn’t find it. The bodycam purportedly shows that the ice driver turns the steering wheel to the left to ram into Martinez’ car. Another (or the same?) ice agent is shown on bodycam with a finger on the trigger saying “do something bitch” before shooting her. Martinez her gun was still in her purse when she was shot.

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      Holy fuck do those agents need to be jailed forever, at a minimum.

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    Videos and sauce pls, need this as evidence in my album to show people who way ICE and BP isn’t bad

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    Original source please?

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      You mean the cops? Why would you want to hear from them?

      • aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Like, the video

        • Madison420@lemmy.world
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          Holy shit, It’s not out to the public yet. Read the article it’s like 3 paragraphs.

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    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

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    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

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