“I know! I’ll use one bogus technology to test another bogus technology! What could possibly go wrong?”

  • Sal@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Yeah, no, being mentally ill doesn’t make you a piece of shit, and that’s essentially implying that they are not at fault for trying to avoid any and all personal accountability. They’re just greedy, evil jerks.

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      2 days ago

      Some forms of mental illness, however, are, quite literally, “just an asshole”.

      Pathological narcissism would qualify for this, for example.

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        2 days ago

        That genuinely depends, actually.

        Narcissists are usually groomed all life and told they’re special and extremely important and too valuable, so what can happen is that those people will feel like they NEED special attention OR to be the best, otherwise they’re irredeemable failures, and they usually have very little (or a very fragile) self-esteem, AND they have insane amounts of self-doubt, self-criticism, or uh, just feel empty. That is what the majority of people with NPD experience. The “assholes” you see with NPD are the ones who actually managed to use their narcissism to get power over others, whether it be by having a child (and thus having power over them), becoming a boss, a successful capitalist, a teacher, or any of those other career paths that require you to have power over someone, AND were never told “no” at any point.

        Also, there is no such thing as “narcissistic abuse”. A disorder cannot be abusive by definition. People can be evil assholes WITHOUT having any disorders, in fact that’s the majority of people who are assholes. Claiming “all those guys’s evilness can ONLY be explained by them having a mental illness” actually does two things you don’t want to imply: one, that they cannot control being evil, and thus, are excused of it because “it is in their nature”, and two, it makes it significantly harder for people who have those disorders BUT are not evil people OR assholes to seek help.

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          Also, there is no such thing as “narcissistic abuse”.

          Point me to where I said “narcissistic abuse”. I’ll wait.

          (Hint: This is not possible.)

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          it’s funny because you’re exhibiting behaviors of narcissism.

          • lack empathy
          • hypersensitivity to slights or disagreements
          • impulsive behavior
          • blaming others

          are you attempting to mask your narcissism as being vehemently against narcissists by calling them “assholes” instead of treating them as mentally ill?

          • Sal@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            I have ADHD, which means all three later symptoms are true most of the time, and most of those are actually quite common across many mental illnesses, so excuse me if I don’t like blatant fucking ableism.

            • Greddan@feddit.org
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              2 days ago

              Calling out an asshole who’s wrong is not abelism. Stop using your neurological disability as an excuse.

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              2 days ago

              so excuse me if I don’t like blatant fucking ableism.

              says the person who is attacking mentally ill narcissists by demonizing them and calling them assholes.

              okay buddy, enjoy your double standards in that ivory tower!

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                  2 days ago
                  • gaslighting
                  • deny hiding mistakes
                  • blaming others

                  shall I add more? you might be a narcissist on top of ADHD, you should get that checked out.