Young men are more left leaning than any generation befire them.
The feminist movement freed the women to have more choices but the men were displaced with fewer options than before. It’s not a loss of privilege but the closing off of options to be feminine or domestic stay at home partners.
I have had my share of struggles and hardship, definitely not the worst anyone’s had it, but enough to empathize I think. I lived in a camper for 5 years, was lucky to have that tbh. Shit jobs, shit pay, no respect. I live in the boonies so I work with all these guys. I’m a white straight guy too, so I pass, and I get to sit with them while they share their terrible opinions.
I guess what I mean to say is that somehow the exact experiences that are turning these man children into hateful far right weirdos have happened to me. Somehow I went hard to the left instead. I wasn’t a “radical” before I moved out here, it’s a response to the last 10 years mostly. Was it because I was raised differently? Probably, my mother is one of the most compassionate people I’ve known, and selfishness was ‘punished’ when I was young. Was it the psychedelics? Also probably. There are lots of other experiences that I know most of these guys haven’t had that helped me be a better person, travel, volunteer work I had to do, I’m sure I am forgetting a lot. But what helps me understand also makes it more difficult to excuse. A lot of these guys have had every opportunity I have, some a lot more. It’s difficult to listen to somebody that has had a chance at promotion complain about their pay, for an analogy that comes from reality. When I also know so many other groups of people are flat denied that opportunity. They don’t have solidarity because they are selfish. I think that’s what it boils down to.
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Ok, but why are the colors reversed?
The comments here on this Lemmy post can serve as a perfect demonstration for the reason behind men turning right-wing. Any comment trying to point out some specific aspect of life where men are experiencing more hardships is immediately shut off and getting told these experiences and concerns are invalid.
There is a limit to how much “fuck you” one can hear before going “well, fuck you too”.
Men are waking up, thats why.
No wonder they are trying to suppress women’s ability to vote again. I’m fairly certain women outnumber men just given by a statistical outcome of X vs Y chromosome at birth. I’m not certain but there’s probably a statistical study somewhere out there that a left leaving woman married to a right leaning man will vote right due to proximity. I’ve seen the former example in real life many times over sadly.
I mean I’m on the left and even I’m getting tired of hearing how all men are trash, which seems to be the only message about men I hear. Young men are only being courted by the right, and the left doesn’t seem to care or even seems proud about it.
That’s because you’re relentlessly being propagandized by corporate social media, and falling for exactly what they want you to fall for.
Turn that shit off. You don’t need it & you’re happier without it.
I love men. Men are awesome <3
I’ve never in my entire life heard a single person say that all men are trash. I think you’re either lying or exaggerating, and you haven’t either.
Pointing out that some men do horrible things is a common observation. Asking that men stop other men from doing bad things is another thing that could sounds burdensome. I can see how these types of statements might upset you if you’re missing the context or the speaker is unclear. But neither of them is equivalent to saying that all men are trash.
Where the hell are you hearing this? Genuinely, i have not encounteted this perspective for years now, so the fact you consider it the only perspective on the left feels crazy
probably a lot of genz showed a signicant shift towards right wing , most likely has to do with right wing pundits, like j peterson, joe roegans, TPUSA,etc.
That’s kinda my point. The right is the only one courting them. Who are the equivalents on the left and what is their message to young men?
Let me remind you that they are simply left to sink or swim in a survival situation where the world seems to want them dead.
My own mind goes to eugenicy places when I realize what world we live on.
I was left on the street for dead at 17.
Radicalized me to the left, not the right, but of course I was that age during occupy wall st.
It’s the goddamn right wing influencers, and parents not supporting thier young adult children while they’ve already had unrestricted internet acess since they were little. “The world wants them dead” the world wants me dead too.
It’s hard to understand for me, the boys in my family were always allowed more freedom, more choice, less responsibility. Three generations it was like that. The mother’s love their son’s, hate their daughters. The father’s teach thier son’s, and rape thier daughters, and love no one, not even themselves.
Three generations of that in my family. It’s so hard to empathize, “the world wants them dead”. Better dead than you father’s slave, trust. That’s why I hit the street.
You are just proving my point, really. We created a hostile world where the fittest, and most entrenched thrive, where compassion is punished, and there is little reason to help others, who then turn out to just be more predators.
The solution: stop depending on the classic system, and build communities. Share crops, sell products as a community, pull each-other up. Nothing else will spite TPTB more.
the left doesn’t seem to care
So if a guy beats up a woman your compliant here is the woman should placate him to make him stop somehow.
how do you incentivize against dominating women for sexual gratification? it’s hard, especially when they have been indoctrinated since they were around 10-12 years old through major media and online pornographic content.
now it’s almost impossible to stop as they become adults and have been given permission from their role models that their behavior is not only acceptable but it’s the only way to live.
mark my words, a large percentage of gen-z males will become domestic terrorists because they feel they have been mistreated and abandoned by society.
if you have young daughters, teach them self-defense early and make them aware of the dangers these men pose to their safety when they come of age.
edit: hate the comment all you want, but it still doesn’t make it less true.
The joke is on the right-wing men. Good luck finding female partners. Also, the best time to be a left leaning progressive guy.
You boys better start getting real into fucking each other
As a man I would genuinely like to thank women for holding the torch of progressivism.
I guess good for us left leaning men?
On the other hand kinda sad, it further drives the fertility-rate downwards (see south-korea, which has a bad future because of this…)
What will these goose stepping idiots do if the USA invades Venezuela or Iran? Are they going to march with the MAGA patriotism or chicken out? I would say over 75% will claim bone spurs. Bunch of losers.
This means that left-leaning men will raise happier families, while the incel-aligned will have their own bloodlines end in deserved extinction. 🎉
I hope that’s the case, but the right is having more kids per person. It’s possible more of the youth is in that shitty environment
I am hoping those kids are looking at children of leftists and asking themselves, “why don’t I have loving parents and the good life?” Even better, is if they become friends with those leftist children, and eventually escape the darkness as adults.
Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of people actually just think what they’re raised to
Young boys are exposed to near constant right wing internet programming and are increasingly attacking girls in school, verbally and physically, starting as early as elementary school.
Combine that with largely apathetic and inattentive parents + very few male teachers and school is becoming an absolute nightmare for everybody
This essentially reflects the rise in incel school shooters except these young men just grow up to become bitter right wing misogynistic bigots instead. They have nowhere to go but right
the incel thing is such a self fulfilling prophecy - they embrace it then can’t imagine why women recoil from them. so they further radicalize.
nice job conservatives, you really fucked up an entire generation
its a negative feedback loop. J peterson, and joe roegan, shapiro achieve that by negative reinforcement.
I like how the maga women are leaving their maga husbands even in White House it’s like yeah…just wearing an maga hat doesnt make you as alpha as you thought bro. On that note I wish Steve miller gets swallowed by his top lip one day.
in r/teacher sub, the hs students are doing that, specificaly the male students have become more disrespectful towards female teachers.
