Fallout 4 is what comes to mind for me. I hate the dialogue system with a passion. I want to know what my character is going to say. I don’t want vague LA Noire-style prompts that are immediately going to go off the rails.

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    I am honestly very pro-modding in a lot of games. There is just so much good stuff out there to either do minor performance tweaks, QoL fixes, stability fixes etc that I mod almost every game I play.

    The two biggest culprits I can think of are Fallout: New Vegas and VtM: Bloodlines 1, however.

    FNV is an unstable, crash-happy and buggy mess that is barely playable vanilla - an experience I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Playing with a “vanilla+” modpack like Viva New Vegas, though, and it can be a super smooth and stable amazing experience that is allowed to shine as the best 3D Fallout.

    Bloodlines is infamous and well documented at this point: without the Unofficial Patch the game literally can’t be finished. There is a bug around 75% of the way through that prevents you from progressing any further. If you even make it that far among all the other bugs, of course. With the UP though it is an absolute cult classic and an altogether very smooth and playable experience.

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      I am glad you mentioned that about Vampire: The Masquerade. I was thinking about playing it for the first time. Do you recommend any other mods for it or just the unofficial patch?

      I am guessing this is the mod you are referring to.

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        There are some other mods, but those are probably best saved for a third or so playthrough. I’m talking of stuff like Clan Quest that adds a lot of fan made content and alternate story branches. There is also stuff like some visual mods or reshades or ENBs if you like that kind of stuff - it’s not really necessary though.

        I recommend buying the game on GOG as it comes with the basic version of the UP bundled and ready to play. The most important thing to know about the Unofficial Patch is that there are two versions: “Basic” and “Plus”. The basic patch comes bundled with the GOG version of the game and includes only the fixes that makes the game playable, stable and bug free (mostly).

        The “plus” patch (also available on GOG as a one-click install!) is Wesp5’s attempt at restoring as much cut content as possible to the game. It makes really significant changes to certain parts, adds restored abilities, changes some existing ones, moves around some item placements, restores some cut ways to solve certain quests and more. It’s an incredible amount of work, and Wesp5 was in contact with some original Devs over email afaik to consult for some parts, and also with the original composer Rik Schaffer to include some cut OST tracks into the plus patch.

        HOWEVER: at the end of the day this still makes the plus patch Bloodlines: Wesp5 Remix. Purists argue that there is too much Wesp5 in the plus patch, that some of the cut parts were cut for a reason, and that the restored quest in the library is not up to the same quality of the rest of the game as it was written mostly by Wesp5 based on cut content and not by Brian Mitsoda.

        Ultimately I tend to say the “optimal” way to play Bloodlines is to do two playthroughs: first one playing a clan that isn’t Malkavian and isn’t Nosferatu, and then a second playthrough using the Plus Patch and playing as Malkavian.

        However if you only see yourself playing it once and you want all the content I think using the Plus Patch right away is fine. Some of the restored stuff like character histories, Blood Heal and more (and some restored quest resolutions) are just strict improvements and should be in the basic patch imo.

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    Minecraft and rimworld. I never played and “beat” Minecraft vanilla because it lacks the most basic quality of life things like idk sorting your inventory.

    Rimworld I play vanilla only when a new dlc comes out to see how it runs (and so there’s time for modders to make it compatible)

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    I have a list. Some of the top contenders:

    • Minecraft
    • Valheim
    • Pretty much any MMORPG
    • Fallout 4 (I agree with the OP)
    • Skyrim
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      What MMORPGs do you mod and what kind of mods do you install?

      I’ve seen the ones for Fallout 76 that do things highlight specific items.

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        I don’t play MMORPGs currently, but World of Warcraft, Elder Scrolls Online and Lord of the Rings Online all have extensive modding offerings. I tended to use quality-of-life mods and mods that enhanced roleplaying, for the most part.

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    Skyrim just has so many very very good mods. Also Baldur’s Gate 3. I don’t think it requires them, but if I want to be a tabaxi, I need the mods lol.

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      Are race mods a pretty big part of BG3’s modding scene?

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    Not really mods, but cheats - TOTK.

    Item management in that game was a pain even using duplication glitches. I’m not sure I’d play it again unless I could mod it or ensure those glitches still existed.

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      For me that was Plague Tale. The walking speed was painfully slow. I gave up on it multiple times before trying a speed hack (made enemies faster too)

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        Oh yeah, there have been a number of games where the walking speed turned me off from the game. Mass Effect 1 moved so slowly in the citadel.

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      I find the build limit is also quite low.

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      Is it something specific about ROM hacks that you like?

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        Pokémon games are basically meant for children so if you want increased challenge, better quality of life features, and additional Pokémon in each game then you simply must use some custom roms

        They also sometimes have good stories and whatnot, there’s quite a few

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    I also probably wouldn’t play The Sims 3 for an extended period of time without mods like Overwatch or Saver from nrass.

    Overwatch does things like shutoff TVs and stereos and find unroutable Sims. Little things that cause the game to get bogged down and eventually crash.

    Saver saves the game periodically so crashes feel less soul crushing.