I love how there’s still Fallout fans who do not grasp that the US Government is the villain of the series
Got into an argument the other day with some guy who refused to understand that the Enclave is the US Government
Not a secret shadow Government, not a post-war replacement
It is the US Government, with their plan to mop up all the undesirables and eventually flee the planet on their spaceship to try their bullshit on some other planet
Even before the war. The US goverment always was evil, they even created a new virus and tested it on their own population.
If we take Tactics as canon, the Main Vault. Vault 0, was supposed to have a budget of like 200 billion dollars for it’s main computer, instead they spent 70% of the budget on making golf stuff inside the vault.
It’s incredibly likely that the US government dropped the bombs. House seems pretty confident about it and with the way the show is going, it probably is.
It’s about time that plot point was expanded and confirmed, it’s beyond the height of ridiculousness that the majority of the fanbase and the even the Fallout wiki believed the Chinese dropped the bombs
It’s like, does anyone understand the subtext of this series, for fucks sake?
Isn’t it basically all but confirmed in the show that it was the US corpos that engineered the nuclear war? They’re not at all subtle about it.
Yeah the most recent episode essentially confirms it was Vault Tec that did it and that the US govt was in on it and pre-planned the Enclave intending to use the vaults as experiments for long term space exploration.
Engineered under the influence of the Enclave.
It’s about time that plot point was expanded and confirmed, it’s beyond the height of ridiculousness that the majority of the fanbase and the even the Fallout wiki believed the Chinese dropped the bombs
The main reason for that is that
fallout fans are stupid and fans of the enclavethe US had defeated China in Alaska and was invading mainland China, and fallout fans think that means the US was winning, without realizing that probably meant the US was stuck in a war they would never win, which is why they tried to focus on powersuits while at the same time making bunkers. They knew if they nuked China, the Chinese would nuke them back.it’s deliberately ambiguous. Land invasion of China, US run by people who would make MacArthur blush, vault tec doing evil corporate shit, Europe trashed because of resource wars, etc.
i don’t think who shot first is important to the games, and i do not trust the people in charge of the TV show to have functioning brains.
i don’t think who shot first is important to the games
I previously wrote that the Fallout ambiguity was the point, and the more we know about the pre-War world actually detracts from the setting IMHO.
The pre-war civilization went from haunting to set dressing. It’s easy to point to Bethesda for this phenomenon, but (if we’re being really honest with ourselves) the problem started in Fallout 2. The game became a franchise, and its own lore began to eclipse the general irony. In the original Fallout the pre-war culture was as alien to the world’s inhabitants as it was to ours. Part of what made it work was the very little that was revealed in the bombed-out ruins. Now we have a fairly liberal (yes, even in FO2 and FNV) takes on the human condition, while the player has an encyclopedic knowledge of the pre-war world.
The US did get an upper hand with Power Armour, the FEV and other shit like deploying Deathclaws on their own soil. Can’t even imagine what kind of shit they threw at China.
During the Interplay era, China was supposed to have dropped bombs as a last resort but it has been ambiguous in the Bethesda era.
Even if China launched the bombs first, building the vaults violated MAD and effectively started it
Suspicious congresswoman is shady as sands
I remember when Emil Pagliarulo was like “Fun fact one of these war criminals was the braindead mannequin you pilot around Boston in our game” and everyone immediately piled on him for it
Man goes to doctor, says he’s a huge failure of a writer, that the internet is dragging him for it. Doctor says “look, a famous fuckup is being dragged right now. Emil Pagliachi. Just look at his posts and retweets and you’ll realize you’ll never be that big of a failure.” “But doctor!” the man cries…
Emil is such a bad writer and designer that is a miracle he still has a job. Bro is single handedly destroying Bethesda.
that’s letting todd off the hook
Todd has problems but he did fine until Oblivion. After that Emils influence has kept increasing at Bethesda and the writing has gone down.
Todd is still far more talented than Emil. He lead Morrowind and Oblivion, Emil wrote a good quest line once in 2006 and never managed to reach that peak again.
Out of curiosity the other day I typed just his name into YouTube search and came up with a solid wall of videos shitting all over him lmao
Nate the Rake
Well, shit.
