? There is no need for you to get involved in it.

And I do wish I hadn’t engaged with him at all, but that’s on me. I do want to make sure this is documented somewhere other than reddit, and with the context of the list of speakers SPN created, which he is claiming I shared to incite violence.

Please feel free to ignore, block the post, or leave the community.

“You have to be willing to sacrifice your privacy and liberty for the safety of children. Won’t somebody please just think of the children?”

“We can’t fund research or treatment of pediatric brain cancer bc we need more money to keep dumping into this terrible AI investment hole we immediately started digging on January 20th, and continue to keep digging deeper and deeper.”

https://time.com/archive/6935350/the-rocket-mans-dark-side/

For reasons best known to von Braun, who held the rank of colonel in the dreaded Nazi SS, the prisoners were ordered to turn their backs whenever he came into view. Those caught stealing glances at him were hung. One survivor recalled that von Braun, after inspecting a rocket component, charged, “That is clear sabotage.” His unquestioned judgment resulted in eleven men being hanged on the spot. Says Gehrels, “von Braun was directly involved in hangings.”

It seems kinda difficult to easily buy the rosy narrative of von Braun, but also be so skeptical that something seems off about Spakovsky’s missing 9 years. The footnote cites his report as a similar case, not the case cited in the text. So does that make him similar to the accused woman? Possibly similar to the woman’s grandson who had been a collaborator and the reason she was accused? If Ia A Shpakovskii in the case is actually Anatolli Ignatevich Shpakovskii, it would be interesting to know what he was accused of.

God this is fucking exhausting. Good thing this guy’s not on trial and this is an Internet forum.

Sure thing chief. You’re right it’s ridiculous to think a criminal who completely changed the spelling of his birth name, might begin using his middle name as his first while escaping justice. It’s ridiculous to think there’s anything strange about this guy or his son. He’s completely innocent. He was a great man and will forever be remembered as a totally normal guy that nobody should look into any further. He was so innocent of any wrong doings that I find it weird anyone would even suggest or think there’s anything weird to even look into. Case closed. Congrassions. 🎉

Idk that’s why I would like to read the report. Maybe it was another Soviet Nazi with the same initials and last name.

Also, 1941-1950 is not the middle of WWII. Wtf was he doing between the time the war ended and the time he came to Florida (which is actually another location Von Braun was shuffled) and then Alabama? We have nothing except the word of his son, which has proven to be very unreliable testimony for most things, even while under oath.

But if you want to defend this random guy, who raised quite the piece of shit, be my guest. Not really my problem.

Yeah it’s almost kinda weird how defensive people are getting with this.

Sure if you also ignore the fact we can’t seem to account for what he actually did during the war or following the war before he suddenly pops up in this middle of nowhere town where the U.S. happened to be hiding other Nazis.

I would be very curious to read this report though if you can find it for me: Berezino district party committee report on the case of Ia. A. Shpakovskii, 24 May 1946

Bc it does seem that he was at least accused of Nazi collaboration at some point.

Von Braun and his fellow German scientists were more progressive than the Americans there.

Most of the Americans there would have been fascist shit stains. But let’s be very clear, there is no way in hell Von Braun deserves the title of more progressive than any other racist shit stain while hiding from justice after performing horrific Nazi experiments on human beings. A Nazi shit stain is a Nazi shit stain. It might not have been your intention, but it just really rubs me the wrong way to hear anybody try and paint this monster in any kind of positive light.

The reason he was hidden in Huntsville vs somewhere more progressive, is bc it was the middle of nowhere and the U.S. government wanted to keep him and the atomic technology he was helping to create, a secret. This is also why it would be a very strange coincidence for Von Spakovsky to end up in Huntsville of all places.

I don’t believe a word his son says about him, but I’d love to read any info you may have found in addition to his son’s rose colored memories.

I’m particularly interested in reading this report that is mentioned in a citation footnote from an article titled ‘What Did You Do during the War?’

Berezino district party committee report on the case of Ia. A. Shpakovskii, 24 May 1946

https://www.academia.edu/29509000/What_Did_You_Do_during_the_War_Personal_Responses_to_the_Aftermath_of_Nazi_Occupation

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/russia-hitler-white-russian-emigres-and-german-soviet-war

Defeated by the Red Army in the Russian Civil War of 1918–20, the Whites spent the next two decades in exile in Czechoslovakia, France, Germany, and beyond, yearning to liberate Russia from what they saw as the godless rule of Jews and Bolsheviks. When Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in 1941, many Russians sought to join his forces, blind to the fact that he aimed not to liberate Russia but to subjugate it. The Nazi regime, in turn, regarded these Russians with suspicion and enlisted only a fraction of them, mostly as interpreters and civil engineers. The Whites refused to see their homeland as anything but a victim of communism or to admit that Red Army soldiers were defending their country against Nazi aggression.

https://www.amazon.com/Russian-Roots-Nazism-Socialism-1917-1945/dp/0521070058 This book examines the overlooked topic of the influence of anti-Bolshevik, anti-Semitic Russian exiles on Nazism. White émigrés contributed politically, financially, militarily, and ideologically to National Socialism. This work refutes the notion that Nazism developed as a peculiarly German phenomenon: it arose primarily from the cooperation between völkisch (nationalist/racist) Germans and vengeful White émigrés. From 1920–1923, Adolf Hitler collaborated with a conspiratorial far right German-White émigré organization, Aufbau (Reconstruction). Aufbau allied with Nazis to overthrow the German government and Bolshevik rule through terrorism and military-paramilitary schemes. This organization’s warnings of the monstrous ‘Jewish Bolshevik’ peril helped to inspire Hitler to launch an invasion of the Soviet Union and to initiate the mass murder of European Jews. This book uses extensive archival materials from Germany and Russia, including recently declassified documents, and will prove invaluable reading for anyone interested in the international roots of National Socialism.

He blanked for nine years then very briefly surfaced in Germany before somehow coincidentally ending up in the same middle of nowhere town in the U.S. where the U.S. government hid other Nazis to avoid trial in exchange for expertise they could offer that they didn’t want falling in the hands of the Soviet Union. Mainly to help further develop nuclear weapons and other atomic technology, but in general anything that they felt could give the U.S. and capitalism an advantage over the soviets and communism.

No point, he was a white emigre born in Russia and an ethnic slav mystery solved. He was also a Nazi. He started teaching in Yugoslavia and then suddenly stopped in 1941. Then yada, yada, yada it was suddenly 1950 and he popped up in Germany and then Huntsville, Alabama.

Now his son is in the Heritage Foundation, he’s destroying everything, and he looks like he intentionally modeled himself off the nazi villain from Indiana jones

You know what would get Trump to shut the fuck up? Standing your ground and not bending to his will to prove anything to him.

You don’t need to show you’re tough on crime to get him to back off. If he’s going to attempt to invade again it’s not going to make a bit of fucking difference how much California man power you have on the streets via CHP. He’s going to do it anyway.

I feel like Newsome knows this so why the fuck is he doing this tough on crime act?

Once they’ve dismantled all progress made towards equality, and they control all the resources again.

People think this is a new fight, but it’s really the same one that we’ve been fighting forever. We just got too comfortable, and thought we couldn’t lose so much progress so quickly.

“we’ve come to realize that people knowing stuff is a real problem for our agenda.”

I’m suggesting he was a member of the Nazi party during the 9 years of his resume that are blank.

He was a teacher in Yugoslavia until 1941 and then I guess he took a nearly decade long sabbatical. Then suddenly he was in Germany . Then suddenly Huntsville.

His son wrote an essay after his mom died about how he wasn’t a Nazi, but his son is also a pathological liar who was responsible for preemptively stirring up an insurrection based on false claims he made about 2020 election security…

What’s funny about this is you’re going a long way to imply the father was a fascist/Nazi, when growing up in Alabama in the 50’s is all that’s needed to turn a child into a racist, fascist piece of shit.

You don’t have to be German to be a Nazi, there are American Nazis. Just being American is enough

I’m trying to say this is dumb without just coming out and saying this is fucking dumb

You don’t have to be German to be a Nazi, there are American Nazis..Jesus you people…

Why bother with acknowledging reality when we can paraphrase and keep distracting from the original point by getting weirdly defensive bc somebody pointed out a fascist’s dad was also a literal WWII Nazi

Also, this is fucking dumb

Uhm… ok just seems like it’s kind of deflecting from the point that this dude’s dad probably got off the hook for commiting crimes against humanity and was allowed to start over fresh without ever facing justice for the atrocities he directly committed.

I know as an American in many ways, I arguably hold some responsibility for benefiting from an unjust system. Still seems like a distraction in a post trying to call attention to the fact that a man literally trying to overthrow the American government was probably raised by a war criminal, and nobody has ever noticed this or brought it to the public’s attention.

So like the openly racist son of a Nazi war criminal who escaped justice is equivalent to any other American such as myself? Interesting, I would like to imagine I’m not quite as bad for being part of an exploited working class in an unjust system this guy is actively controlling, but I guess if you see it that way, not much I could say to change your mind.

Ok… not sure why you’re trying to defend a neo Nazi or his old school Nazi dad, but sure.

Technically I don’t think he got to Huntsville until 1951, but yeah when he got there it was a town of less than 17k people and only 4 square miles.

In 1941 he was somewhere else… Doing something. Who knows what. We can’t say for sure what he was doing before he suddenly reappears in Germany in 1950 and then off to the city that never sleeps, Huntsville, Alabama, in 1951.

Huh, if only there was some way to know how big Huntsville was in 1951

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Huntsville,_Alabama