Ok, now I’m curious, why is it only after I call you out that you decide to read what I wrote with any criticality? What about my argument (which I happily acknowledged was based purly on personal experience, and therefore not all parts are universally applicable to everyone) makes you think I’m nothing more than a dumb internet troll with no meaningful opinions or thoughts worth sharing or discussing like adults?

Sure, parenthesis need a buddy, but I still find them a lot faster to type simply because it is always the exact same two keys. No stopping to hunt for operators and symbols that seem to move or disappear every, single, fucking, time. When handwriting, parenthesis only takes one single, quick stroke that stays in line with what you are writing (maybe a small thing, but I find it important if my hands hurt, aka. always).

At no point have I argued the elimination of the operators, only that using them exclusively determine order of operations presents an accessibility issue and is largely unintuitive for many individuals.

The actual reason I find the parenthesis easier to read is because it isolates the problem into distinct, physically easier to read sections that eliminates a hard to distinguish operator and creates a clear step-by-step process to solving the problem that doesn’t really on any rule beyond working from the inside out.

Single operator problems can be solved in any sequence, no parenthesis or order of operations needed. In your example, it’s literally no different than combining like terms. But beyond basic cases like that, parenthesis always create a more comprehensible problem. Tell me, which is more clear and has less room for error:

1+2+3×4+5+6

1+2+3÷4+5+6

1+2×3÷4*5-6

OR

(1+2+3)(4+5+6)

(1+2+3)/(4+5+6)

1+((2×3)/(4×5))-6

Literally, all I’m arguing is that parenthesis make math easier to read and less prone to error or unintentional misinterpretation and should therefore replace the potential amigousness of order of operations. On top of that, I find them to be dramatically more efficient. Not everyone feels the same, fair enough, not really trying to paint with broad strokes on that front.

Oh, you don’t know how to read, carry on then.

This is more a consequence of manipulative propaganda and poor education being weaponized against people, rather than a direct reflection of constitutional gun laws.

Revisions don’t really make sense for Framework in the same way as most other tech companies though, simply because of how upgradable and swappable the laptops are. My 13 probably has parts from two or three different “versions” at this point, and works like Lucky Charms.

Simple rules are only simple if they are intuitive and consistently applicable. Otherwise, they are nothing more than yet another thing to remember and think about, yet another source of error, and yet another possible point of confusion. With enough time/ effort, one can brute force the intuitiveness, but that doesn’t automatically make the rule good or universally useful.

As a math teacher, I can assure you that not everyone has the same level of understanding or knowledge when it comes to order of operations. Some people struggle to remember the specific order, and mnemonics are worthless. Others struggle to read or visually process problems written with unclear or inconsistent symbology. Hell, most people don’t even learn exactly the same fucking rules. Tell me, where is the simplicity in all of that?

When I teach order of operations, the glass eyes and exasperated sighs of frustration come out. But when I teach just the parenthesis and exponent stuff, lightbulbs and understanding. Suddenly, people “too dumb” to do 2+2 are doing algebra and getting excited about math for the first time ever. Some of this is certainly a failing of our collective education system, but we can’t just forget that everyone has their own flavor of learning disability, neuro-diversity, and life experience. Simple rules quickly fail to be simple in the face of complex people.

I find this to be unironically both easier to read (by an incredibly wide, dyslexic margin) and faster to write and type.

Parenthesis consists of only two symbols that only require two keyboard keys and a single stroke of a pen to write compared to the four keys and varying strokes of the standard operators (aka. more efficient). But, far more importantly for me anyway, “+”, “×”, “*”, “÷”, all look nearly identical unless I stare the keyboard or problem for an agonizing century (waste of time, perhaps?) and even then it’s a mystery whether my brain processed the symbology correctly or put the numbers in the right spot to do math (yep, waste of time). The humble ( ), however, is very easy to see, and it creates neat little windows that don’t leave much room for misinterpretation.

2*7²+5*3³ = accessibility nightmare

(2(7²))+(5(3³)) = readable with clearly defined order of operations

I did preface this by pointing out I’m weird.

Imma be weird and argue that the answer actually should be 4.

Dear Aunt Sally is great or whatever, but syntax also fuckin matters. We can all probably agree that the faster, more intuitive answer is obviously 4. Most of those in the western world (meme’s largest audience) read left-to-right and there is nothing the delineate that division must actually come before inverse addition until one has carefully examined the entire the problem (which you should definitely be doing, dumb-dumb) and slapped on another layer of thinking (inefficient waste of time when doing quick mafs). Use the damn parenthesis, ffs!

Fun fact: I have literally never not fallen asleep watching an episode of x-files

(Might be due other underlying neurological issues, but shush)

I upgraded to windows 11

That explains it all, lol

Nice of you to dodge the question . . .

And that makes the coercive force-feeding of shit we never asked for acceptable?

I’d fight em and refuse to pay the extra on the bill. It’s not your responsibility to fix their fuck-up when they are the ones estimating and billing you. If they want their money they shouldve given you the correct bill the first time. It’s like getting a cheeseburger for $5, and then the restaurant realizes inflation exists and comes banging on your door for another $10 a month later.

Did it happen another time?

Why the fuck would anyone release cri . . . “Anti-Trans”

Nvm, carry on

Nah, he tucking tail and running away like a little bitch

One might also consider the classic hat-utils and beanie packages as a more complete alternative

All people (zero exceptions) are messy and weird, but stupidity is largely subjective and hardly worth hating over

At this point, it might be better to use Ai to learn programming than to wade through the hours of force-fed advertising/ influencer garbage that YouTube has become. Just don’t actually fucking program anything with Ai, critical thinking skills need still apply . . .

I like trains . . .

But me only use few word, me no talk lot