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  • Using honest to goodness em dashes instead of just a hyphen - pretty uncommon.

    Even a hyphen would be pretty unusual in a real text message, because they’re more annoying to get than other common punctuation on the phone keyboard, and autocomplete won’t put them in.
    In a chat app, a hyphen would probably be somewhat common since it’s right there on the keyboard, but a true em dash would be pretty unusual since most chat apps aren’t going to be doing autocorrect like a word processor would, and you’d have to use the magic key combination to insert it.

    But we don’t have the original text so we can’t tell if the original author confused a hyphen with an em dash, though







  • I think thats too pedantic of an interpretation (surprising, considering my name lol).

    I don’t really agree that something we’d recognize as a moral system could form in a vacuum.
    If someone’s morals diverge significantly from the culture they’re embedded in, I see three avenues for them:

    1. Find a subculture or external culture to join to help galvanize the shame into resolve
    2. Adjust your moral system to align with the culture
    3. Sociopathy

    Even in your extreme example, I think that only sociopaths could “go it alone”, and that the people who did disagree with their culture often did so knowing that they weren’t alone in that belief.

    But really you’re putting way to much thought into a shitpost.


  • What do you think that morals are, if not societal expectations? Lots of cultures disagree about what is moral and what isn’t, and people from those cultures have adopted those morals by being raised in those cultures.
    If people in those cultures stop caring if others within their own culture perceive their actions as moral, then society devolves into chaos. Maybe sociopathy would have been a better word than narcissism (although I am not a psychologist); a society of primarily sociopaths cannot survive.












  • I agree, although I think that phrasing it as “dislike” does a disservice to the legitimate grievances.
    To give it a more nuanced spin, it’s not so much about disliking one because of the other, it’s about taking everything together. The power usage is just one more grievance, exacerbating opinions on AI.

    I think the reason that power usage comes up a lot is because it’s easy to discuss, while talking about it through the lens of economics or communal good can easily get derailed.


  • You’re absolutely right that the environmental impact depends on the source of the energy, and less obviously, by the displaced demand that now has to seek energy from less clean sources. Ideally we should have lots of clean energy, but unfortunately we often don’t, and even when AI uses clean sources, they’re often just forcing preexisting load elsewhere. If we can start investing in power infrastructure projects at the national (or state/province level) then maybe it wouldn’t be so bad, but it never happens at a scale that we need.

    I think the argument isn’t the environmental impact alone, it’s the judgement about the net benefit of both the environmental impact and the product produced. I think the statement is “we spent all this power, and for what? Some cats with tits and an absolutely destroyed labour market. Not worth the cost”
    Especially because it’s a cost that the users of AI are forcing everyone to pay. Privatize profits, socialize losses, and all that.