John Oliver went into the starvation in Gaza yesterday. This feels like a precursor of the intelligentsia being “always against this” or “not realizing” that Israel was “going too far”.

Seems like a way to slow down younger generations discovery of Israeli war crimes and commentaries against it; a way to find future dissidents and silence them.

Why is the starvation of Gaza the pivotal point for these western liberal democracies and not the genocidal rhetoric, bombing, and annihilation beforehand?

Is it because the starvation is more apparent an act of sadism than simply immolating civilian population through bombings?

Zionism was considered a fringe movement prior to the Holocaust, the prevailing attitude was towards the Labor Bund, socialism, or liberalism. But because there was a sizable population, following, and political, economic support for establishing an “Ulster” in the Levant, Zionism was permitted and sustained by Western capital and empire.

The war, the genocide, eradicated much of the Jewish socialists and traumatized the survivors into believing the antisemitic beliefs that Jews, despite being native to their European states for centuries, were always strangers - and the strangers should go back to their ancestral homeland: Palestine.

Zionism, as a living coping mechanism for centuries of abuse during Diaspora, indulged in these twisted fantasies in order to free the Jewish people from their oppressors and threat of annihilation. Zionism professes itself as the agent of Jewish self-determination, but while the Israeli government drives the car, Europe and the US pave and path the road, supply the gasoline, and act as their mechanics.

There is so much institutional and ideological saturation of Zionism within Jewish institutions that make it very challenging to be liberated from; however the brazen and constant barrage of Israeli politicians, media figures, IDF troops, and the Palestinians crying out for help through their own broadcast of the starvation and genocide is deepening a rejection of Zionism.

Fft was and is my favorite.

“The gods have no eyes for chattel” never ceases to boil my blood.

Sounds like social engineering to break your will, ensure compliance, and plan for worker obsolescence.

That was the first thing I noticed too. It is an offense against him first, and the power to absolve his daughters’ abusers is his alone.

It seems people feel betrayed by her and her platforming of liberal Zionism, but Natalie has shown herself to be a liberal since the inception of her channel and rise to fame. Her presentation was interesting - perhaps deradicalizing - during the early/mid Trump administration in 2017-19, since fascist politics, aesthetics, and culture were brazenly becoming normalized by the likes of the New York Times, the internet, and media at large.

But her time has past, no? Sure she still makes a very lucrative existence but her celebrity is very niche and echo chamber-y of people who are unwilling to challenge society to begin with.

I suppose this post by Natalie is a useful anecdote of evidence for the examination of liberal fetishism of respectability politics.

Ultimately this appeals to those who are unwilling and incapable of doing anything helpful for Palestine; it seems her supporters aren’t activists to begin with but passive consumers of the likes of r/neoliberal waiting to be pacified and reassured that the status quo of their privileged section of humanity is still extant.

What happened to Dirt_Owl?

Those two get paid as much as medical doctors per year every month

Kind of a tangent but I looked up history of the dunk tank and then it took me to the Jim Crow museum.

What a sick, evil, depraved society.

I’d like to think things are a bit better, maybe if only a little, but that kind of brazen evil is really horrifying.

Then a synapse fired and that is the reality the oppressed have always found themselves in. Especially right now in Palestine.

I think you’re substituting age with intellectual lethargy in this statement.

A few days ago I asked about that zwei_squirell post and other heterodox questions that were amounted to dooming in this site.

I appreciated the feedback, analysis, and insight.

However, I certainly don’t want to read a “trust the plan” comment. It comes off as a very adolescent, juvenile, and dismissive response; it comes off as hopecasting and political lethargy.

I think it was the Schezwan sauce comeback where someone made a scene at a McDonalds exclaiming the quote “I’m Pickle Rick”.

The show, aside from Roiland, is OK. I don’t understand the big deal before or since then around the show.

I don’t mean to sound dismissive, but I recall her time in the sun was during 2017/18, and was mostly famous for deradicalizing fascists.

If Covid-19 and the million deaths was not the turning point for Zoomers to disavowing neoliberal politics and economics, then certainly the genocide in Gaza was. Her videos are talented for Youtube, but are those videos really as entertaining or interesting as you recall them to be? Is it anything else other than to recycle talking points that the state of the world is good because the alternatives are bad.

Thank you.

Is there any refutation of zei_squirell’s post from the other day that I can read up on? This war’s forecast seems heavily in the US/Israel’s favor.

The real reasons for the US-Israeli war on Iran, explained - Geopolitical Economy Report/Ben Norton

Is that Samson Doctrine publication post from Iran have any weight of truth to it? I know that Israel has it but I just thought it was a boogeyman that Israel let circulate

Yeah that’s what I thought it was, but the fog of war makes everything quite uncertain that I would at least like heterodox perspectives to help in forecasting where this is going. r/JewsOfConscience is a hub for anti-Zionist Jews.