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  • I also don’t know exactly what the next step is.

    Obviously, protesting and civil disobedience.

    Looking at historical precedents, I also think targeted sabotage should be part of it. Nothing like the Reichstag fire or the assassination of Ernst vom Rath that would fuel a civil war.

    In WW2, our resistance performed targeted sabotage on (for example) rail lines, pipelines and electrical networks that did not hurt anyone, but which did weaken the German war effort.

    One big disadvantage compared to WW2 is the massive surveillance state.

    During slavery there was also the underground railroad. I would definitely set up a system like that to bring targeted activists to Canada. You really don’t want to lose your intelligentsia. Let them provide resistance from Canada.

    I hope others have better ideas on effective tactics though.



  • Yes, there has been. Neonazi propaganda is bad, but so is Zionist propaganda

    The transatlantic slave trade put 12 million people on ships from Africa to the Americas. 2 million died and 10 million lived awful lives no better than that of the Jews in concentration camps.

    Once you add their descendents (we don’t know the total number) we have 10s to 100s of millions of people living in work camps for 20 generations spanning 350 years.

    Never has there been any compensation paid to descendants of slavery. Even today, there is still compensation paid to descendants of Holocaust victims, and the time difference between the end of slavery and the Holocaust is less than that between the Holocaust and today.

    And it’s not just this one. Germany more or less ignores the genocide it committed in Namibia.

    Even when it comes to WW2, the focus is always on the 6 million Jews and not the 20 million Slavs. Even though Slavs are a more homogeneous ethnic group than Jews. It was just inconvenient during the cold war to see the USSR and its citizens as a victim worthy of compensation.

    And then finally, this live streamed genocide in Gaza. Which in some respects is worse than the Holocaust, even if the absolute number is lower.

    My grandparents were resistance fighters in WW2. They knew Jews were being picked up and sent to camps, and they saved a few from that fate, but they didn’t know the truth about Auschwitz until after the war. The images were not publicly available in occupied Europe. They were shocked. And the same is true for most Germans. The Nazi’s never had popular democratic support for the war and genocide.

    But in Gaza, we can all see it. It is being denied, while being live streamed. The Israeli’s, Americans and the Germans can see the starving kids in Gaza and still provide popular democratic support to its continuation.

    The Germans of WW2 never reached that level of moral depravity, only a few Nazi’s did.





  • You are not familiar with Judaism. They aren’t allowed to kill Jews. That’s what the commandment means to them and has always meant to them. The second of the ten commandments is about loving your neighbor and to Jews that historically means other Jews and therefore the other commandments following it also only apply to other Jews.

    But to be fair, Islam has the same issue of discriminating against unbelievers. At the time of Muhammad, only Jews, Christians and Sabians were tolerated. Others had to convert or be killed.

    And to be even more fair, there are orthodox branches of Judaism that are pacifist and therefore definitely don’t go out to kill. I really admire Yaakov Shapiro, who is fiercely anti-Zionist and pacifist.

    Of the three Abrahamic religions, Christianity is the only one that doesn’t allow killing of any humans.

    Jesus specifically took the commandments and gave the parable of the Good Samaritan. Samaritans were the Palestinians of his time, descendents of non-exiled Israelites and Judeans. The Jews who came back from Babylon didn’t recognize them as Jews and discriminated and oppressed them.

    So Jesus gave that parable to make it clear that even Samaritans were neighbours, not just Jews.

    Of course, later Christianity became the Roman religion and evolved to become the most violent of the three Abrahamic religions, but Christians have always needed to justify their wars as “just wars” in “self-defense” or “to protect the innocent” and Christian leaders are masters in lying and deceit. Even in modern times, Bush needed to lie about WMD to get support for the Iraq war.

    So I don’t want to say Christians are less violent - history shows the opposite. Only that Christianity is pacifist in its original form.


  • Then explain how Trump got the ceasefire deal that Biden couldn’t get?

    It’s quite likely Democrats would have won the election with a ceasefire in place and that’s why Biden tried his best to get it before the summer. He used the UN and put pressure on Netanyahu by withholding some weapons, but his AIPAC leash was too tight and Netanyahu and the Republicans humiliated him in front of the world multiple times, so he had to give up.

    Trump doesn’t give a shit about Palestinians. But he isn’t as controlled by AIPAC as Biden was. He has Elon Musk and his own cult. He can tell Netanyahu to eat rocks without losing his power base.