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Nope. I don’t agree with cm0002’s campaign of reposting everything posted to a lemmy.ml community to a community hosted elsewhere, so I don’t want to run a bot that suggests there’s genuine growth somewhere when I consider any growth there to be driven by bullshit. The bot was never sophisticated enough to distinguish between the two.

I’m not on vacation - I just tend to use this account instead.

It ended up being more of a proof-of-concept than anything. I forked Thunder by banging my fists on the keyboard until it worked, rather than actually learn anything about Flutter/Dart or proper app development. As soon as another Flutter app came along (Interstellar), I leapt at the chance to abandon it.

Little mortarboard for the dick too (they must get 'em made specially).

Your link is broken.

It’s probably not worth editing (vs. deleting), 'cos the video is also linked to in !games@lemmy.world, !gaming@lemmy.ml and again in this community too (a minute after you).

Dept. Q on Netflix is pretty good - it’s one of those ‘modern Sherlock & Holmes get their own department in a disused basement to investigate cold cases’ type shows.

It doesn’t, no. The bot gets its data from another bot, at https://lemmyverse.net/, which only crawls Lemmy and MBIN instances at the mo.

We’d either need to send a PR to get that bot to crawl PieFed instances too, or just replicate the functionality from the same machine that runs ‘tcbot’. Communities would also need to provide their ‘active users / month’ too. It’s just the subscriber count currently, but it shouldn’t be too much of a problem hopefully.

I’m now concerned that I’ve unfairly brought PieFed into all this. It’s not my project, and it will continue to thrive irrespective of how much I do or don’t contribute to it.

I do, however, think that cm0002’s current project is doomed. The idea that the admins of Lemmy instances of any significant size will defed from ML on the promise that one person will continue to be willing and able to replicate missing content, presumably forever, is not one I can foresee succeeding. If the admins of lemmy.ml weren’t also the devs, then maybe, but otherwise no.

It was this approach that I was attempting to criticize, not any fundamental political disagreements.

I mean, sure. If they recognize what’s happened. We can hope that every person who sees a post just visits the original source, or I can keep hoping that just one person stops needlessly fragmenting everything. Whatever’s easier, I suppose.

Maybe we both do. First link I found: https://lemm.ee/post/66363651 - OC content, no attribution, 198 votes and 3 comments that could’ve gone to the creator of that meme, but didn’t. There’s a comment from OP in this thread saying that they just use the built-in cross-post functionality (crediting the author would require extra steps).

On the off-chance someone creates some original content, it’s likely that they’ll want their name to be associated with (as the post author), and I assume that they’re motivated to do it by the potential engagement they’ll receive (in terms of replies and upvotes).

Should they commit the crime of submitting the post to a lemmy.ml community though, then cm0002’s bot will come along, and post it elsewhere. The attribution will be lost, and the post will be newer and possibly on a bigger server, so is likely to get the more engagement.

It’s not like everybody who posts to a ML community is a tankie or whatever, but they lose out because of some spat they have nothing to do with.

I’d be wary of getting a conversation node from anybody other than the original author (as described in the second approach).

There’s a reason why, if you want to resolve a missing post in Lemmy, etc, you have to use the fedi-link to retrieve it from its source, not just from any other instance that has a copy (because, like the “context owner”, they could be lying).

For Group-based apps, conversation backfill is mostly an issue for new instances, who might have a community’s posts (from its outbox), but will be missing old comments. Comments can be automatically and recursively retrieved when they are replied to or upvoted by a remote actor, but fetching from the source (as you arguably should do) is complicated by instances closing (there’s still loads of comments from feddit.de and kbin.social out there - it will be much worse when lemm.ee disappears). So perhaps Lemmy could also benefit from post authors being considered the trusted owner of any comments they receive.

Sure, okay, let’s say I’m demoralised and depressed about all that too. My potential for unhappiness knows no limit.

It doesn’t change the fact that I find the ways in which you’re perpetuating your endless feud with Lemmy’s developers to be overly disruptive. As a compromise, would you at least consider packing in the reposting of questions asked to asklemmy@lemmy.ml to the community on world?

That’s not using existing functionality. It’s not a question for which you’re genuinely seeking an answer. The pollution from mindless crossposting of URL-based posts can be mitigated somewhat, but it’s a harder problem to solve for text-based ones. Also, traffic from lemmy.world is more than all the traffic from every other instance combined, so there’s no value in needlessly adding to it.

Thanks.

PieFed’s API has in very large part been added by me. There’s more to do before the likes of Boost could provide the same experience as a Lemmy backend, but every time I look at this site I see your behavior, I find it a bit demoralising and depressing.

I understand what you’re trying to do, with all this cross-post spam, and content-theft, and obsessive crawling through modlogs, but I highly doubt you’ll achieve your goals.

One thing you have achieved though, is to actively discourage me from Fediverse development. So, yeah, well done: this is one reason why it will indeed be a ‘hot minute’ before Boost can use PieFed, but considering that you seem to have rejected the entirely viable option of just ignoring lemmy.ml and getting on with your life, I don’t really believe you’ll ever want to move platforms anyways.

Temporary for you … permanent for the rest of the fediverse, lol.

There’s some ‘ngrok-free.app’ URLs knocking about from my experiments too. What’s fun is that I can leave them down for months, and then as soon as I start them again, Mastodon is straight there with “HELLO EVERYONE EVER - I’VE DELETED A USER! … I’VE DELETED ANOTHER USER …”

That opening sequence does it no favours - it looks cheap, and they’ve already redone the hallway sequence from Rogue One plenty of times before.

Ah, shit. Cheers. The amount of things learned from the comments under memes is probably a bit high, but I’ll send a commit to fix this in a minute.

Does Lemmy look at the mods URL again when it decides to refresh a community (or when it receives an Update / Group) ? If not, then PieFed instances might need to send out some “Add” activities.

PieFed isn’t hiding mods - when Lemmy fails to get them, it’s for its own mysterious reasons.

In ActivityPub, to get the moderators of this community you can do this from the command-line:
curl --header 'accept: application/activity+json' --location https://feddit.uk/c/fedimemes/moderators | jq .orderedItems

To get the moderators of a PieFed community, it’s exactly the same:
curl --header 'accept: application/activity+json' --location https://piefed.social/c/50501/moderators | jq .orderedItems

In both cases, the mods URL comes from the attributedTo field for the community.

What is the update delay for Fediseer?

I don’t know. It’s not something I’m familiar with - it might just default to saying ‘closed’ if it doesn’t have the data.

It’s interesting that the obvious bot accounts on those instances were set up in mid-March last year, so I’m guessing that these are somebody’s army that they’ve used before, but overplayed their hand when they turned it on the DonaldJMusk person. The admins can reasonably be blamed for setting up instances with open registrations and no protections and then forgetting about them, but I’d be wary of blaming them for being behind the attack directly. The ‘nicole’ person is unlikely to have used their own instance - it’s probably just someone with the same MO as whoever owns the bots, finding and exploiting vulnerable instances.

lemmy.world recently updated from version 0.19.3 to 0.19.10. This change - for Lemmy communities to federate out posts with the community name as a hashtag - was introduced in 0.19.4, so that might be the other reason why this has only just become an issue for you.